The Korean Facebook page Liberalism has generated many heated discussions on Korean society and politics. The posts on the page are usually aligned with the conservative perspective as understood in the Korean political context.
It is our national trait to not be able to tolerate differences. “The opinions different from mine are all bullshit fabricated rumors. Those who are more successful than me must have used some cunning tricks to get there. If I have done the same, I would be even more successful than them.” This is even worse these days. Those self-acclaimed “mentors” who lecture about youth’s outlook tell you not to try too hard. They teach young people how to consider themselves as “slaves”. It’s so aggravating. While they bash unequal chaebol hierarchical society, it is them who inject the ideology of classism into young minds. It is their “teaching” that you better give up early because no matter hard you try, you can’t overcome those born with a golden spoon in their mouth. So young people don’t try. Then they passive aggressively talk shit about those pals who they occasionally hear became successful. What’s funnier is that those who indulge in inferiority complexes and hate, ignore different opinions and do not try anything too hard, thinking they are slaves, yet try to represent the public. Empty carts make more noise. The reality is not that bad, but why do all comments on social networks and internet news only say it’s so hellish? The answer is simple. While whiners who do not try hard complain on the internet, those successful and satisfied people are working hard in real life.
Byung Hyun **:
There have been some posts I can agree with and some other posts I had to disagree with on this site. This post is the one I can wholeheartedly sympathize with the most.
This reminds me of those Today Humor users.
Too many people indulge in hate and anger for no reason. If they look carefully, they would realize it is not something they should be angry over, but they want to argue and fight. In this process, they feel a twisted sense of moral superiority as if they are upholding social justice. In fact, this can be often seen from those internet progressives (some left-wing cos-players who have no philosophical basis). Anger stemming from ignorance. They just cover their ears and do not listen even if you try to reason with them. The problem is that the internet conservatives who should keep them in check also began to show similar behavior. They are simply sick of those “enlightened citizen cos-players” and just bash them without understanding progressive and conservative ideologies. In this regard, internet progressives and conservatives increasingly resemble one another. In order to resolve this issue, we should get rid of irrational internet culture and promote the atmosphere for rational discourse. We should move beyond the political side taking. It is quite funny to see many citizens trying to bash each other merely based on political labels even though they are not politicians. It is urgent to establish the culture of rational and democratic debate among independent individuals. I want our liberalism to lead that social change.
It is the funniest when those who have bought into propaganda on various social issues say Tajinyo is pathetic, ke ke ke.
Seung Hun Kang:
Those uncivilized people who cursed at Jeong Seon-hee and Tablo are most likely happily listening to Cult Show with Jeong Seon-hee and enjoying the Return of Superman with Tablo now.
So when will Chung Mong-joon Jr. ever lose? [Whenever some news about unsavory behavior in Korea is reported, some netizens say “Yet another win for Chung Mong-joon Jr.” meaning Chung Mong-joon’s son was right about his remark about “uncivilized people”.]
Jeong Seon-hee’s remark wasn’t even criticism towards the candlelight protesters. If I remember correctly, she was talking about someone who stole a manhole cover in the midst of protests. For that one comment, she got attacked by the zombies. This resulted in not only Ahn Jae-hwan’s suicide but also the tragedy of the whole family of Choi Jin-sil, Choi Jin-young and Cho Seong-min. And now what? They have forgotten what they did and are creating yet another rumor about Jeong Seon-hee for showing up on TV. There is just no solution for them.
The problem is that those ochlocratic people have a delusion that they are enlightened and aware, and those groups who benefit from staggering the government take advantage of such ochlocracy. It appalls me that even the authentic traditional party of the Republic of Korea engages in such cheap trickery to seize power.
I do not understand those who complain that posts here are not neutral. What does it mean to be neutral anyway? This post bashed Tajinyo. If he defends them once on the other side, is he being neutral? That’s just being a fence sitter. It seems the admin never claimed his posts are neutral. There are hundreds of political pages on Korean Facebook. Why don’t you ask them all to be neutral??
These days, when I think about independence activists and war veterans in the past, it’s amazing how they loved their country so much. In less than a century, no single person says they love their country anymore and they blame others and the country for everything. How did the old people love this country at young age even though they had no luxury to study abroad or learn English? How did they love their people? Sigh, the current state of the country makes me wonder if Koreans were really once like that.
Soo Young Lee:
There are too many people who blindly brush off different opinions than theirs as wrong. They also butt into everything.
Your post seems reserved this time. You could also mention the Sewol issue. A special law for a traffic accident? Such a ridiculous fuss.
Those “enlightened citizens” who bash this post cannot point out how it is biased and illogical, ke ke. They just call it illogical if they don’t like it. But they can’t say the reasons.
The conclusion doesn’t seem weird. It seems the post tells you to think critically and make rational judgement without blindly bashing or rumor-mongering. I don’t know how some people say this post is weird.
Those with the “If what I claim ends up being not true after all, who cares” attitude should get their mouth torn off.
Some say this is biased but this Liberalism page does not intend to be neutral in the first place.
Ke ke ke ke, there are so many people who can’t resist the urge to bash everything, ke ke ke ke. Are those the peoole who rant about Chicken Geunhye and Rat Myungbak but get enraged at someone saying Roh-ala [making fun of former President Roh Mu-hyun]?
I have been reading this site for a while. I wonder. Is this site really for liberalism? If you want to promote liberalism, you should cover a broader liberal perspective on your examples and conclusions. I support and respect that you try to mention the privatization issue from a liberal point of view. However, it would be good if you deal with economic, political and social problems from a “real” liberal viewpoint with depth. I would assume that this only applies to your posts that I have chosen to read. Whenever you talk about some fact, you initially propose a good question, but end up delving into propaganda, privatization or pro-government contents. Hence, this site can be seen as just another venue for factionalism in the disguise of promoting liberalism. I hope you don’t find my comment unpleasant. I hope you cover issues from multiple liberal angles without factionalism. Real liberalists or free marketeers can find it uncomfortable to read this site because they might feel this is another site for propaganda in the name of liberalism.