Netizens Discuss Social Stigma Against Online Community Ilbe

Ever since koreaBANG first covered the origin of the controversial online community Ilbe, Ilbe-related issues have frequently recurred on the Korean internet and media. The perception towards the website has been largely contested among netizens. Recently, netizens discussed the stigma associated with Ilbe on the Facebook page “Liberalism”. This article intends to delve into the complications as to why Ilbe is not simply considered an “evil” online community by some netizens despite the constant negative media coverage.

From Liberalism:

Thoughts about the Ilbe-phobia

1. A truly tiresome time has come. It has reached the state where prevalent disgust for Ilbe suppresses citizens’ free speech. In the current social atmosphere where Ilbe is treated like an absolute evil, conservative citizens cannot help but feel uncomfortable. Many of them remain silent because they are afraid to be associated with Ilbe when they express their conservative opinions. However, it upsets them to silently listen to illogical criticisms towards the government.

2. What created Ilbe in the first place was such oppression. Internet progressives who resort to emotionalism, calling for justice, spread like an epidemic because they enjoyed the sweet pleasure of feeling moral superiority through blindly shouting anti-government chants without any logic. For them, the government is the perfect scapegoat to blame every problem in their life as the primary cause.

3. The Internet that was occupied by the progressive’s voices forced silence on other political perspectives. If four out of five people share the same opinion, the other one stays silent. According to the “spiral of silence” theory, people tend to be quiet no matter how proper they think their opinion is, if they think other people around them will argue against them. Conservatives have long remained silent in the spiral. Just like the Christians hid in catacombs to avoid persecution during the Roman Empire, conservatives hide in the dark corners of the internet.

4. Due to the internet subculture’s characteristics, deviant acts that go against the existing social rules happen on the internet. Because the people who could not mesh with mainstream society formed the community. Ilbe’s anti-social culture dubbed as unethical was born out of their hermit activities. Hence, we need to think about what created Ilbe and reflect on it before we express extreme disgust for everything related to Ilbe.

5. The extreme disgust for Ilbe, so-called “Ilbe-phobia”, drives conservatives and Ilbe into the darkest corners and also puts shackles on ourselves. Just because a celebrity from Gyeongsang province used a dialect on his social media site, he got mired in an Ilbe controversy and had to clarify himself. On some comedy show, they were accused of being Ilbe users for dressing like owls. We are living in a very weird era. Various social taboos stemming from Ilbe-phobia police citizens. We have to be careful not to be associated with Ilbe with every word we say.

6. How is it different from the public policing era when those who opposed the government were persecuted as commies? The oppressor merely changed from the government to the public. No, I would say it is worse now. Just because Ilbe does it, we have lost the freedom to criticize former President Roh Mu-hyun’s political footsteps. We cannot discuss the irrationality of candlelight vigils. We are scared to voice conservative opinions. This infringes on our freedom of political expression, and suppresses our behavior and thoughts.

7. The number of simultaneous users on Ilbe exceeds 20,000 on average and the number of monthly visitors is more than 4 million. It is already an overwhelmingly big community. It is impossible to keep such a big group underground after all. Such an attempt would only cause bad side effects. Shouldn’t we encourage them to come out of the closet and turn themselves into a community that can voice reasonable conservative opinions, instead of stigmatizing them with Ilbe-phobia?

8. Instead of blind ostracism against Ilbe, we should promote a social atmosphere where we can listen to their political viewpoints while we criticize some users’ anti-social antics. Oppression against conservatives on the internet has created a catacomb called Ilbe, and social ostracism and disgust for Ilbe has driven them to the darkest corners of the internet. Maybe could it have been our narrow-mindedness that fostered Ilbe?


“Are you an Ilbe bug? Brainless Ilbe bugs are coming!”

Comments from Liberalism:
Joonsic Yang:

1. It is not Ilbe-phobia that suppresses our free speech. Even before Ilbe emerged, people called each other conservative idiots or lefty commies and did not communicate with one another very well. Also, Ilbe bashed the left side much more strongly even before the Ilbe-phobia got prevalent.

2. Ilbe wasn’t created to fight against some sort of oppression in the first place. It was just a website that collected funny posts. Illogical government bashing should be discouraged, but Ilbe-phobia is against anti-social acts, not the government.

3. Why did you randomly bring up the “spiral of silence” theory? Did you want to sound smart? Even the party in power right now is conservative. I doubt conservatives are such a minority group that is less than 20% of the population.

4. Anti-social acts are one of the traits of internet subculture? Can you justify the appalling behavior shown on Ilbe? What is unacceptable in society should not be acceptable on the internet. What created Ilbe? The fact that there are unacceptable acts in society? Should normal people feel sorry that they do not condone anti-social and unethical acts even on the internet?

5. The extreme disgust for Ilbe was created by Ilbe themselves and they even enjoyed the attention. Those who get hurt are reasonable conservatives. I hope you don’t equate Ilbe to conservatives by saying “Ilbe and conservatives went underground”. I do agree that witch-hunting innocent people with Ilbe-phobia is wrong.

6. Ilbe users also witch-hunt people with a leftist stance and call them names like “skate.” You need to recognize that the target of suppression is Ilbe’s unethnical behavior, not the conservatives. It is their freedom to criticize former President Roh’s political footsteps. However, vulgar meme words like “unji”, “nomunomu”, “Roh-ala”, etc. are the problem. Not everything can be justified under freedom of speech. Conservatives grew wary of expressing their opinions, not because people suppress Ilbe but because immoral Ilbe users cos-play themselves as conservatives. Reasonable conservatives still use reasonable language even on Ilbe. Do you think Ilbe users refrain from doing bad things because they are afraid of the stigma? It seems they enjoy the attention and do even more.

7. Then are you saying we should embrace anti-social and unethical behavior in order to bring Ilbe into the mainstream? That is absolutely impossible. There will be huge problems. Also, are you saying Ilbe users are persecuted conservatives trapped underground at this point?

8. For Ilbe to come out of the closet, they should abandon their anti-social language and unethical antics through self-purification. They can openly reveal themselves if they only share reasonable conservative opinions. As long as they enthusiastically enjoy such antics, Ilbe-phobia is unavoidable. Your article overall insinuated that social ostracism against Ilbe means ostracism against conservatives. But it came from Ilbe’s unethical behavior. Is it narrow-minded to bash such things? I agree that Ilbe-phobia interferes with conservative voices and produces many bad effects in this regard. At first, I thought I would be able to agree with your point as the topic itself was good. However, the article turned into defense for Ilbe. You took a very wrong stance and came to a weird conclusion that Ilbe should come out of the closet. I see your point about Ilbe-phobia’s side effects, but I cannot agree with your article overall.

Sally Yan:

When I try googling for useful info, many posts from Ilbe come up in the search results. In other forums, they don’t share such semi-expert-level knowledge much and even if you write such posts, there are not enough people who read them. An article about the bubble effect for a sinking ship after the Sewol accident was posted on Nate Pann and Women’s Generation. If I remember correctly, the comments were like these.

“It seems like a good post, but girl, it is too long to read…”
“Re: 22222 [seconded]”
“Re: 33333 [thirded]”
“Isn’t this post from Ilbe….?”

Most comments were like that. Many communities do not have the intellectual level to digest quality posts and many of them don’t even want to read much. It seems they only like to gossip about entertainment news and satisfy their intellectual vanity through reading a few lines on internet news. It seems like a Korean trait to not study at a deep level. This country brands those who study out of genuine intellectual curiosity as otakus. On the other hand, when the article was posted on Ilbe, it received many comments and I saw college students and those who majored in the field discussing it. It was something I couldn’t find from other sites. Ilbe users have a lot of curiosity and know how to share ideas with others although they use coarse language. This trend has died down a lot over time, but even a year ago, Ilbe was flooded with quality posts. That’s why you get many Ilbe articles in the top Google search results for whatever topic. Since they have a lot of intellectual curiosity, there are many quality posts, too. However, if you try to share those articles, 7 out of 10 would say they won’t check it out because they don’t want anything to do with Ilbe. The Ilbe stigma is so strong. I’m not good at writing but maybe Liberalism readers here know what I’m talking about. Does something happen if they read Ilbe just for 30 sec? Idiots.


I wonder if people would ask me whether I use Ilbe if I clicked the “Like” button for this article…


When lefty zombies lose in an argument, they say “You are an Ilbe bug, aren’t you?”

Sally Yan:

Just because this site dissed Mayor Park Won-soon and former presidential candidate Moon Jae-in, there were too fucking many people wearing the “enlightened citizen” arm bands to police the site. Those guys don’t just hate Ilbe. They just have no attitude to acknowledge different ideas. What’s the point of doing well in exams and going to a good school if they have no ears for others?

Wonjae Woo: [Site admin]

Of course, some Ilbe users’ anti-social play culture should be criticized. However, we cannot generalize all Ilbe users and ostracize them altogether when the website has more than 20,000 simultaneous users. When conservatives were a minority on the internet, blind oppression of them created today’s Ilbe. I wrote this article light of this fact.


Kids, you guys are not bashed for being conservatives. Look at the posts on your Ilbe site. Something like “A way to check whether your mom is a Kimchi bitch” is posted there. Wouldn’t it be weird if there were no backlash? You are called out for being Ilbe bugs because you use words like “lefty zombie”, “lefty commie” and “Kimchi bitch” when you comment. Then you claim you are persecuted for expressing conservative opinions. Sane conservatives are different from you. You guys undermine normal conservative citizens’ reputations. Please do not think you are bashed for being conservatives. Just look at your own site’s posts and you should know why you get bashed.

Yoon Soo Jang:

Progressive and left-wing groups seem to think they can embarrass people who have different opinions by saying “You are an Ilbe bug, aren’t you?” and branding them as immoral people who enjoy making fun of dead people. But in my opinion, no matter how hard Ilbe users try, they cannot catch up with progressive and left-wing groups’ ability to make unethical comments. Even after it’s all been proven false, they still accuse Park Chung-hee of being a pro-Japanese traitor. They claim we should get rid of the statue of McArthur who saved the Republic of Korea, etc. They have made spine-chilling remarks, yet they get mad at netizens who just play around making Koala drawings for “insulting the dead”. I wonder if they ever look back on what they have done. Is it a good criticism to make fun of Lee Myung-bak and Park Geun-hye, calling them rat and chicken but such an inconceivable blasphemy to call Roh Mu-hyun a koala? They told old people to stay home and not vote to reduce conservative votes from old folks. Those pregressive and left-wing groups are the ones who said if you are over 60, your brains become rotten and abnormal. I find it very hypocritical when I see them go on about how Ilbe is an evil site because of some Ilbe users’ abnormal acts. I’m not condoning some Ilbe user’s bad behavior. I’m just asking whether our progressive and left-wing groups have the right to cast a stone to Ilbe.

Sally Yan:

I also don’t agree that Ilbe represents conservatism. They just think it’s cool to support Park Geun-hye and it’s fun to bash Roh Mu-hyun. Many of them would bash Lee Myung-bak and Park Geun-hey if they were in the same position as Roh Mu-hyun. Nevertheless, they are the only community that voices conservative viewpoints and takes action as a group on the internet. A lot of people do not even know their own country is still in a cease-fire. They call the US an international thug although they don’t exactly know why, but have no complaint towards China. An ignorant mob is dangerous because they don’t have the ability to filter out wrong information. They say North Koreans are also our people but the majority of them are ignorant. They were educated to believe their Dear Leader is the best. You may think they are poor starving brothers and sisters, but those 20 million North Korean commoners are the ones who worship their leader as the only god and will point a gun at us if a war breaks out. The only big internet community who’s aware of this? Maybe it’s only Ilbe. Ilbe is still a necessary evil. I barely impose my view on others or try to give definite answers. I don’t think there should be one correct answer for everything after all. My political perspective is extremely conservative, but I never said a word to my left-leaning friends who clicked the “Like” button on some government-bashing posts. I just think there are such opinions, too. In the current Korean political situation, there is one issue that has only one correct answer. That is the issue of inter-Korean relations. I sometimes see people who regard North Korea as an enemy on some other sites, but I’ve never seen them consider North Korean people as enemies. Also, even when the groups that threaten our free democracy run amok, most Internet communities advocate them just because they hate the government without much knowledge and just use the excuse that our country is democratic. I don’t think using Ilbe itself is bad. Ilbe is the only website that covers such topics and there are many useful posts, too. It is true that there are many unethical and abnormal posts, too. Many people stay away from Ilbe because of that. However, what’s clear is that Ilbe is still a necessary evil. Nothing comes out of blind disgust. It is definite that Ilbe still does more good than harm.

Jeong Hyun Nam:

Honestly, it is true that Ilbe is a monster created by the mad cow disease turmoil. If leftists have brains, they should reflect on their role as the birth mother for Ilbe before criticizing them. But I doubt they would do so because the leftists today only have hearts but no brains.


When Saebu bastard was the admin, I used Ilbe for about 2 years and it’s been almost a year since I stopped going there. At least right now, it is not the type of site you can call conservative or rightist. It was decent only when young conservatives in the politics forum made fact-based posts. Now it is just a playground for empty-headed teenagers. That’s why I quit using it. When those teens who don’t even know the timeline of Korean presidents call themselves conservative or rightist, they’re no different from those leftist cos-players who think it’s just cool.

From Naver Knowledge-iN: [September, 2014]

Exactly what is Ilbe like?



The origin of Ilbe traces back to about 5 years ago. At the DC Inside Comedy Gallery, some bored dude named Moe-Myungsu created a website that collected popular posts from famous galleries, but it failed soon after. Afterwards, a guy named SAD created Ilbe in the current form and a self-acclaimed wheelchair rider Saebu took it over and claimed complete independence from DC Inside. The crazy current admin Unma bought Ilbe at a large sum of 2 billion won and he’s getting all kinds of insults for not running the site to the taste of Ilbe bugs.

Ilbe is mainly a humor site and there are additional forums such as the politics forum. Although politics is secondary, Ilbe shows strong conservative traits because many far-rightist users from DC Baseball Gallery moved to Ilbe. If you actually read Ilbe for a few days, you will find unexpected things from Ilbe that have been exaggerated in descriptions by the left-leaning media. Photoshopped photos, synthesized music, jokes and various informative posts are the main focus. Their language is coarse and blunt but they share photos of their dogs or cats, or they compete for who has worse disability or who goes to the worse school or who’s poorer. The main user demographic is males in their 20s and 30s. Most of them are ordinary students, workers, unemployed guys, or those who are seeking a job. Sometimes, you can see unique people such as judges, prosecutors, doctors, chaebol sons, pilots, soldiers, etc. who prove their identity on the website.

The positive function of Ilbe, which the media or social networks do not cover, comes from its leveling system. There are levels from 0 to 30 among Ilbe users. If you have a high level, you get bashed for being a true Ilbe bug even in Ilbe, but Ilbe bugs want to level up to get attention and show off. To level up, they have to get lots of up-votes for their posts. Most Ilbe bugs who cannot create photoshopped photos or synthesized music that are popular on Ilbe choose to do something different. That is, doing a good deed and showing it off. It is the easiest way and you get less bashing, so most users try to level up in this way.

For example, they wake up early in the morning and clean up a nearby hill or an alley. They report a drunk person who passed out on the street to the police. They report smoking teenagers to the police. They take care of lost cats or dogs. Or they pick up a lost wallet or a phone and find its owner. They call it “Jup” in Ilbe terms, which means picked up.

Ex) “Picked up a drunk ajushi”, “Picked up a bird with a broken leg”, “Picked up trash at the neighborhood hill in the early morning”, “Picked up a wallet”. They upload proof in photos to get up-votes. Sometimes they also donate to UNICEF or World Vision and show the statement to get up-votes.

Saving an abandoned kitten

Returning a lost wallet to the police station

Donating to a Ugandan child.

There is very little damage inflicted by Ilbe in real life. On Ilbe, they talk tough like “I will break all your teeth”, “I will cut you with a sashimi knife”, “I have a rifle at home”, “I’m a Jiu-jitsu black belt”, “Tell your little sister to watch out at night”, but they know very well that these are just big-mouthed Ilbe bugs who cower at the sight of their boss at work. But the media writes exaggerated stories as if these things really happen, which contributes to Ilbe’s negative image. Controversial cyberbullying and insulting dead people have always existed since the heyday of Humor University and DC Inside. However, because Ilbe unprecedentedly unified conservatives, left-biased media began shedding light on Ilbe around the time of the presidential election in 2012 in an attempt to depict Ilbe as representative of conservatives. This is called Ilgis [Ilbe + Aegis] Ship or Ilbe meat shield. They created the public perception that Ilbe represents conservatives and does all kinds of bad things, even though such things have also existed in other Internet communities such as DC, Humor Univ, SLR Club, etc.

In various online games or other websites, there are trolls who try to draw attention by acting as if they are Ilbe bugs. Most of them are teenagers. They are losers at school who need love and attention. Those losers who want to get attention at least on the Internet choose to aggravate others in Ilbe’s style, because it works very well. So they end up doing that frequently. If you guys don’t get aggravated and ignore them, they will realize that they are trash who can’t even get attention online. You might as well hear heartwarming stories that they killed themselves, so just ignore them.

From Naver Knowledge-iN: [August, 2014]

I’m curious about Ilbe.



Ilbe is a topic that frequently appears on current affairs news these days. I will give you an answer for why Ilbe is bashed. Before I begin, I’ll make it clear that I’m a conservative rightist. Also, my post won’t be another “Ilbe’s shocking atrocities!” type of article that lists what bad things have happened on Ilbe. I will explain the background for the Ilbe hate here, so do not misunderstand.

First of all, you basically need to know what Ilbe is like. It originated from DC Inside. Now DC is almost dead but it used to be so popular back then. New posts were quickly uploaded and there were many users. New posts quickly became old posts buried in the back pages. A website to save the most fun posts each day from DC was created. That is Ilbe. That was the original function of Ilbe but after DC Inside died, many users found new home at Ilbe.

If you browse DC, you will notice that there are numerous galleries for different topics. For example, baseball, politics, history, university entrance exam, etc. What would happen if all these users gathered together? Wouldn’t you see mixed traits of different galleries in one place? That’s why you can find a mixture of various traits from DC Galleries in Ilbe. For example, Baseball Gallery: they claim they are retards. Politics Gallery: conservative rightist stance. Photoshop Gallery: creating millions of different images using one target source such as Roh Mu-hyun, etc.

That’s enough for Ilbe’s background. Now let’s find the answer to your question. As you know, leftist governments ruled the country for 10 years. Coincidentally, the internet infrastructure in Korea matured during that period. When common people began using the internet, leftists had the upper hand in politics. They quickly and firmly occupied every corner of the internet. It was especially intense during Roh Mu-hyun’s presidency. Although the public sentiment took a sharp turn towards favorable after his suicide, he managed the nation terribly. The lowest approval rating at that time was an unbelievable 5.7%. Enraged by this, Nosamo (People Who Love Roh My-hyun) set their eyes on the internet. As a result…


“[Nosamo’s] organized manipulation of online polls.”

Nosamo manipulated online sentiment by using multiple accounts. All Korean internet sites ended up getting a leftist bias. It was still no big deal as the Presiident was leftist himself. People already knew President Roh was imcompetent, so they could ignore whatever they read on the internet. Time passed by and Lee Myung-bak begins his presidency. By then, the internet has settled well in our life. Even older people began using the internet after they heard about it so much. More credible quality information was available on the internet than ever before.

But then, the shame in Korean political history, the mad cow disease turmoil broke out. You know that very well, right? “If you eat American beef, you will die with holes in your brain.” “You will become a zombie and infect others.” All kinds of rumors came out. There was even the bullshit that 95% of Koreans are vulnerable to the infection. Citizens were frightened and directed their anger towards President Lee Myung-bak. Of course, Nosamo and other leftist groups fanned the flames and manipulated public sentiment. They even hired part-time workers for anti-American and anti-government candlelight vigils.


Propaganda poster: “Infection routes of the mad cow disease is scarier than AIDS”


“How to get 10 million online signatures for impeachment of Lee Myung-bak quickly [by repeatedly creating a new ID to sign and then deleting the ID]”

You know what’s really funny? They went apeshit as if Koreans would die in mass, but the number of “infected” people in Korea is zero so far. Not a single case of infection, let alone a single dead person. According to the claims at that time, Korea would be full of zombies by 2013, which is 5 years after 2008. 2013 has passed. We are okay, aren’t we? After the mad cow diease propaganda, our people learned a big lesson. “Oh, it is really foolish to hold anti-government protests based on false propaganda.” Afterwards, the public opinion critical of pro-North Korean leftist camp’s blatant anti-government propaganda has gradually formed. It was 99% leftists and 1% rightists on the internet in the past, and the rightists just began waking up. However, progressives already had a strong foothold on the internet. You can find so many leftist communities such as Today Humor, Ppomppu, MLB Park, Lemon Terras, Daum Agora, Nosamo, etc. There was only one place for conservatives who were newbies on the internet. That was none other than Ilbe.

Ilbe is conservative rightist. They extremely hate false propaganda that has no factual basis. The number of daily visitors on Ilbe exceeds 1.4 millions. Of course, their influence is big. Recently, “privatization of railroads” has been the hot topic and it had the potential to become as big as the mad cow diease anti-government chaos. Leftists seethe at President Park Geun-hye who is a conservative rightist.

However! What do we have in 2014 that we didn’t have back in 2008? That is Ilbe. Ilbe users quickly shared correct information and debunked the leftists’ various false claims about privatization in the early stage of the propaganda and prevented potentially big damage to the country. If this propaganda worked again…. Ahh, I don’t even wanna imagine it. Now let’s look at things from a leftist perspective.


Lee Seok-gi, “Let’s instigate crowds to create chaos like in the 2008 mad cow disease chaos.”

Since leftist Moon Jae-in failed and rightist Park Geun-hye sat as president, they thought they should quickly create social chaos like in the 2008 mad cow disease chaos and drop the approval ratings for the government. However, Ilbe suppressed their propaganda in a timely manner. What would Ilbe look like to them? Wouldn’t it be such a nuisance? So the leftists set their targets on Ilbe.

“Since every false anti-government “fact” is debunked by Ilbe, we should instigate a negative public sentiment towards Ilbe!” Hence, they began demonizing Ilbe. As I said before, Ilbe users claim they are retards who hate hypocrisy and fake pleasantry. You even get bashed if you use respectful language there. In such an atmosphere, sometimes, there are excessive posts that cross the line. Whenever there are such posts, leftists quickly collect and spread it as “Ilbe bugs’ atrocities”. They even disguise themselves as Ilbe users and post nonsensical things on Ilbe in an attempt to draw negativity as if it represents all Ilbe user’s thoughts. This is called “trolling”.

And this attempt has been successful. Ilbe’s image could not be worse. We’ve reached the state where if you say you are on Ilbe, you get socially shamed. You know what the leftists really wanted? To resume their propaganda. If you shove debunking posts from Ilbe into their faces, they can just say “You are an Ilbe bug, aren’t you?” and voila. Then every fact and piece of data an “Ilbe bug” shows suddenly becomes worthless. This is what’s up with Ilbe’s demonization. The absolute majority leftist sites vs. one rightist site. The leftists who won in this battle keep promoting the public perception that Ilbe is a very bad site and conservative rightists represented by Ilbe are also very bad guys.

Now, let’s sum it up.
1. The internet was traditionally occupied by leftists.
2. Ilbe has become a strong bastion for conservative rightist netizens.
3. Because their propaganda doesn’t work very well like during the mad cow disease protests, leftist began demonizing Ilbe.
4. Demonization has been successful. Leftists resume their propaganda.
5. Demonized Ilbe users can only be bashed no matter what they say.

Of course, Ilbe is not a flawless site, either. Their hate for North Korea, leftists, and ignorant mobs is extreme. Their bashing of former presidents Roh Mu-hyun and Kim Dae-jung can be excessive. They use coarse language and curse words like it’s nothing. They don’t acknowledge Jeolla-do as a part of our country. They are ruthless about the so-called “Kimchi girls” who leech off guys. However, I want you to know that Ilbe is not such a bad site that hosts criminals or terrorists.

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  • bumfromkorea

    It’s fucking rich that the Ilbe Bugs are now comparing their “persecutions” to 70’s dictatorship persecuting “communists” and “reds”, when it’s the Bugs themselves who shout “좌좀” “빨갱이” “종북” at ANYTHING that they don’t like or disagree with.

    You don’t like being “persecuted”? Next time there’s a ferry disaster, don’t call the victims “fish cakes” (because drown victims’ skins would be bloated and squiggly like fish cakes) and joke about how the female victims probably let the male victims have sex with them before they all drowned. Eating pizza and chicken right fucking in front of the victims’ families in hunger strikes probably didn’t help too much either.

    Or you can do all that. That’s your right. Just don’t go crying about how you’re persecuted like the protesters were in the 70’s when the public opinion of you corresponds precisely to your actions. Save the crying for when you’re in front of a judge while spewing bullshit about how you’re remorseful for your actions.

    • bigmamat

      They just took their playbook from the Republicans and the right wing Christians in the US, it’s embracing playing the victim. After all that’s all this community has ever been to start with anyway. Butthurt boys whining about not getting the hot chick, whining about losing their rights as men, because most of them are men who think they aren’t getting their just do in the real world. From what I’ve seen they all sound like a bunch of mama’s boys.

  • Boris

    Isn’t Ilbe pretty much the 2Ch of Korea?

    • guest

      No, not even close.

    • Chucky3176

      Ilbe’s often accused of being pro-Japan by the left wing nationalists. Ilbe, most of the time, spend their time making fun of liberalism (as left wing nutcases that protest all the time), pro-women (as feminazis), and Jeollado province people (as stupid and criminally prone).

      • redwhitedude

        Better steer clear from ilbe and 2Ch. Then there are complaints about Dave’s ESL cafe too.

  • elizabeth

    Demonizing a community because of/with a few extremists and fakes, and then labeling anyone who disagrees as one belonging to that demonized group, is an outdated, underhanded strategy to ‘win a war’.

    It is like someone resorting to abusive language when there is nothing left in the argument bank. Unfortunately it works – on those who cannot see beyond the labels, that things are not always black and white.

    • bigmamat

      If they belong to your community then you have the responsibility to put the extremists and flakes in check. Otherwise accept the same tar and feathers…..

      • elizabeth

        If life is that simple and everyone easily controlled, we will not have murderers, thieves, molesters, drink-drivers, fights, criminals and offenders of sorts, law breakers, drug smugglers, etc.

        So you expect the innocent to be responsible for the guilty. It’s either naivety or unreasonableness that’s driving that attitude.

        Or perhaps you could suggest exactly how they can be kept in check.

        • bumfromkorea

          One word: Mods.

          • elizabeth

            Could you explain? What’s Mods?

          • bumfromkorea

            Mods (moderators) who can ban the crazies and pull down batshit insane posts. 50% to 75% of the Bugs will be banned the first week, sure, but at least it won’t have Bugs making fun of drown victims in the same week that they died.

          • elizabeth

            I see, thanks. I was thinking about offline scenarios.

          • bumfromkorea

            I think the societal stigmatization currently in place works well.

          • elizabeth

            Whatever works for you Koreans :)

            But your main enemies are not your countrymen, that’s for sure. In the light of all that innocent loss of lives these past weeks, Ilbe is the least you need to be bothered about.

          • bumfromkorea

            Koreans, like many people around the world, can do more than one thing at a time. To suggest otherwise is a false choice fallacy.

          • elizabeth

            If I were you, I’d concentrate my efforts on fighting the real and present evil right at your door step than bicker over non-life-threatening disagreements.

            The Korean teenager who went missing on terrorist grounds could well be the tip of the iceberg. This Ilbe issue, seen in that light, seems a waste of precious, time and resources.

          • Xman2014

            Ilbe is being used as a lefty scapegoat. The lefties ruled the internet world for so long, now that they don’t have the sole control over public opinion to push hate, they’re crying and whining foul.

          • elizabeth

            I have always been curious about Ilbe and what kinds of monsters lurk there. Thanks to this article, I understand Ilbe much better, in a positive way.

            I believe that truth always prevails. It is good that you attempt to clear the air.

          • Xman2014

            In South Korea, it’s the leftists who are the fanatical nationalists and bigots – it’s completely the other way around, compared to the west…

          • bumfromkorea

            ㅋㅋㅋ 니네 뭐하냐? 공익광고 찍는것도 아니고.

          • Xman2014

            That’s kind of rude.

          • elizabeth

            Yes, I must admit it’s a little confusing. That’s another reason why I do not like labels – left, right, liberal, conservatives, Democrats, Republicans, progressive, patriarchal…moderates (?)

            And also why I prefer to look at comments only and not judge based on the person’s background/political preferences.

          • Sillian

            It would be unfair to generalize the ‘leftists’ as such but it is also my observation that petty stubborn nationalism or ideological victimhood sensitivity comes more from the left side. I think the North Korean factor has partly made it this way.

        • bigmamat

          Well I’m operating under the assumption that an “online community” is a community which usually means there are rules. So you kick out people who are behaving in a way that the “community” decides is unacceptable. Let the nasty people go form their own community. That’s why people think ALL of Ilbe are like minded. Does that answer your question?

          • P.

            Seriously, are you even able to read that site, or are you just going by what you are told about that site? If you can’t make an informed opinion, then you should stay out of this fight.

          • elizabeth

            I have yet to find a site where users are given Mod privileges to kick people out at will. Furthermore, it is not practicable. But yes, thanks for the answer, although it doesn’t solve the problem.

          • bigmamat

            You don’t actually need mod privileges. If enough people don’t agree with them. Shouted them down in the first place they would have given up and gone elsewhere. Problem is enough people hang out there that actually are like minded. They set the tone. Face it if you hang out there you will be labelled on of them.

          • elizabeth

            That’s group bullying. Not exactly civilized or democratic. It still doesn’t solve the problem.

            The crux of the matter is, the innocent should not be held accountable for offenders. That’s basic human decency.

          • bigmamat

            Sorry don’t hang out there if you don’t want to be labelled as one of them that’s the best advice I can give you. Or associate all you want but don’t “out” yourself elsewhere unless you’re willing to take the heat for it. You can’t convince me that I need to be sensitive to someone who has a choice who they associate with. If you tell me you go there to troll the assholes then fine. Otherwise I’m not politically correct enough to give the “innocent” a pass.

          • elizabeth

            I am not here to convince you nor do I need to. Wouldn’t care if you label me an Ilbe bug. It doesn’t do anything to me but speaks volumes of you.

            So, thanks but no thanks for the ‘advice’. Have a good day.


          • bigmamat

            You hang out with Ilbe and accuse me of being a bully. That’s funny. Try this….there are some things that you don’t defend if you’re trying to be “politically correct”. I’m not trying to be politically correct just remember you won’t get a lot of tolerance for the intolerant.

          • elizabeth

            I don’t hang out at Ilbe but I won’t be afraid of you calling me an Ilbe bug.

            Since when have I accused you of bullying? There is not need to get worked up especially if you aren’t one.

            If it is the link to the site, it is meant for anyone interest in stamping out bullying on the Internet. I find it relevant since you have suggested using bullying tactics and appear to endorse them, although you may not realize it’s bullying.

    • bumfromkorea
      • elizabeth

        The Sewol disaster is a sensitive topic which I would rather not comment on. I wouldn’t deliberately do what they did.

        But in general, it would be unreasonable to expect everyone to feel the same as we do and not do the things we think they should not do.

        People might be insensitive or even antagonistic, deliberately provocative, but that does not give us the right to tell them what to do and expect them to obey us. Otherwise, we may as well kiss goodbye to freedom of expression.

        • bumfromkorea

          It’s just ridiculous for these Ilbe bugs to start claiming victimhood over “persecution”, when all this is about the public opinion (*also* freedom of expression) turning very sour on them.

          “Freedom of expression” is a freedom from governmental persecution regarding your right to express yourself. It has *zero* bearing on whether you’ll be socially ostracized and condemned by the people. Even in America, 1st Amendment doesn’t protect you from the court of public opinion when you say stupid shit in public. Being called an “ignorant asshole” and being socially isolated for publicly claiming that Sandy Hook shooting was an anti-gun rights conspiracy is not a violation of one’s right to free expression.

          • elizabeth

            So does it mean that they have no right to do what they did? Were they breaking the law?

          • bumfromkorea

            How do you get that from “”Freedom of expression” is a freedom from governmental persecution regarding your right to express yourself. It has *zero* bearing on whether you’ll be socially ostracized and condemned by the people.”? They have the right to do what they did (freedom of assembly), just as their critics (the rest of the society) have the right to condemn them (freedom of speech), socially ostracize them (freedom of assembly/freedom of expression), and make being an Ilbe bug a social stigma (also freedom of speech).

          • elizabeth

            So, do they have the right to do that or not? Are they breaking any law in Korea?

          • bumfromkorea

            I’ll just copy and paste, because I don’t think you’re reading what I write too closely.

            They have the right to do what they did (freedom of assembly), just as their critics (the rest of the society) have the right to condemn them (freedom of speech), socially ostracize them (freedom of assembly/freedom of expression), and make being an Ilbe bug a social stigma (also freedom of speech).

          • elizabeth

            So, they have the right. And just as you can ostracize them or complain, they can too. But this will not solve any problem. It will only perpetuate animosity and hate on both sides. But you are all Koreans. Is it wise to be divided?

            The only way to solve the problem is to recognize that there is middle ground – to understand where the other person is coming from. But calling names and throwing rottens eggs will not allow you to do that.

            Ps. Could you explain what ‘Mods’ is?

          • bumfromkorea

            Again, it’s just fucking rich that the Ilbe are crying about calling names and throwing rotten eggs, when their favorite words are “종북” “좌좀” and “빨갱이”.

            It’s not reasonable to talk about middle ground with a community whose regular past time involves misogyny, bigotry (especially against SE Asians and Korean-Chinese), and making fun of drown victims. The societal isolation and stigmatization is entirely appropriate – it’s not like Ilbe even represents the Conservatives, who themselves were horrified of Ilbe’s antics regarding Sewol. There is no great divide. This is the same process as the stigmatization of the Westboro Baptist Church and in America.

            Maybe 변희재 likes them, who knows.

          • elizabeth

            It is good that you can see that the conservatives are not comfortable with Ilbe’s antics. But what I understood from the articles is that conservatives are also Ilbe users. So effectively, they are also being stigmatized as long as they are associated with Ilbe.

            That brings us back to my main point – it is not fair for the rest of the Ilbe community for you to lump them all up with the extremists.

          • bumfromkorea

            I’m sure there are Republicans who use Stormfront too. Doesn’t mean we should not condemn Stormfront in case there are innocent Republicans caught in the mix. If you’re a Republican and you’re a public stormfront user, chances are you are going to be labeled as a stormfront user by other Republicans. Same idea with Ilbe here.


            Another proud moment in Ilbe history, freshly picked from today’s selection of degenerates.

          • elizabeth

            I’d rather confront the individual(s) than condemn the whole community, lock, stock and barrel.

          • Xman2014

            Again, you’re trying to mislead the readers here who may not be able to read Korean and take your words at face value.

            Again, is not even closely remotely resembles Stormfront which is race based site.

          • fuck u

            Well I guess you are one of the “prostitute”.

            Go fuck your self.

          • bumfromkorea

            이건 또 뭐하는 병신일까? 애야. 이럴시간에 알바나 하나 더잡아라. 밀린 고시원비 낼려면 열심히 살아야지, 응?

          • fuck u

            Oh and please stop agitating to the poor foreigners.

            Your hasty generalization makes me sick.

            And may I guess your hometown?

            I guess it is republic of “Jeonla” and which is state of North Korea.

          • bumfromkorea

            어이구, 영어공부 좀 더하셔야겠는데? ㅋㅋㅋ

          • fuck u

            Plus. Did you said “Ilbe Bug”?

            Your a poor Red Fish.

          • bumfromkorea

            ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 홍어의 “홍”이 붉은 홍이냐? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 무식한새끼. 한자공부도 좀 더 해야겠네.

          • bumfromkorea

            ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ㅅㅂ 일 들어가야 되는데 계속 웃겨서 미치겠다. 그럼 홍수는 “red water”냐, 이 덜 떨어진 놈아? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

          • Xman2014

            “bigotry (especially against SE Asians and Korean-Chinese), ”

            This is rich. Daum and Naver portals are far far worse when it comes to racial bigotry. Practically the users there, have the word ‘jjangkke’ as a second word. As for Stormfront site, their sole purpose is to promote racial superiority of whites. Ilbe has no such purpose, as it’s just a portal site of collection of thousands of different topics everyday, most of them that has nothing to do with race or racism.

          • bumfromkorea

            Listen, sweetheart. I’ve already dealt with your fantasy-land of “Tiny minority trolls” causing trouble for otherwise healthy and respectable Ilbe community about 4 months ago. Remember?


          • bumfromkorea


            Another proud moment in Ilbe History. Freshly picked from today’s selection.

          • Xman2014

            Hey that’s Roh Mu Hyun, former leftist president of South Korea! lol…

            Now a days, we can’t even make fun of silly politicians without being accused of racists and bigots…. wth?

          • bumfromkorea

            Not many people, however, make fun of silly politicians for killing themselves. Or use the name of the suicide site as a slang.

            And, of course they wouldn’t – because they’re human beings with basic human decency. Ilbe bugs, on the other hand…

          • Xman2014

            He’s being made fun of, because there are still too many people who hold him up to be a cult hero and a martyre (they really believe he killed himself because he was unfairly prosecuted for corruption). These people who holds Roh as a cult hero, call themselves as “Nosamo”. They’re the real targets of this lampoon.

          • bumfromkorea
          • bumfromkorea


            Another proud moment in Ilbe History. Yes, what is it with bitches not willing to do your errands/chores after 9PM?

          • bumfromkorea


            Another proud moment in Ilbe HIstory. Man, fuck those homemaker c**ts and their inability to make dishes that you like in the correct amount. The Kimchi bitches these days are indeed useless pigs eating up the man’s money, huh Xman2014?

          • Xman2014

            Making fun of women’s lib movement.. now is that mean this person really hates women, his mom, and his sister? Come on, it’s sarcasm and cynicism. You’re really over the top.

          • bumfromkorea

            “음식이 씨발 좆나게 맛이 없으니까 밥을 안쳐먹어서 남기는거지

            누가보면 씨발 정성들여 한 음식 매몰차게 거절하는줄 알겠다?

            [출처] 전업주부충 씨발년들 개불알빠는 소리 甲

            Maybe your Korean is a bit rusty, but that does not sound like sarcasm and cynicism to me.

          • Xman2014

            What is exactly so terrible about it? You really think he hates women?

          • bumfromkorea

            돈쳐먹는 돼지

            [출처] 전업주부충 씨발년들 개불알빠는 소리 甲

            Kimchi-fucking-bitches are
            Pigs eating up money

            You’re right. I don’t think he hates women.

          • Xman2014

            His complaint is against Korean women’s values, that value materialism over anything else. Truly, you’re reading into things too much.

          • bumfromkorea

            Yes, I’m definitely reading into things too much.

            I’ll just repost this:

            Kimchi-fucking-bitches are
            Pigs eating up money

          • Xman2014

            You have falsely claimed here that it’s another racist Stormfront-like site, but all you have done is post a few misgynogist comments that got posted there.

          • bumfromkorea

            Lol a “Few”? I only post things from Ilbe’s “Daily Best” section, sweetie. That means those posts were the most popular, most read, and most approved by the Bugs.

            So they’re misogynistic. At least they’re not racists. Well, let’s check just to make sure.



            I particularly liked this one:

            Which category would this fit in? Hmm… What do you think? “Fashion”, or “Girl group”? Well, they are talking about replacing prison with labor/internment camp for Foreigners, so I guess it technically counts as “History”.

          • Xman2014

            They would go under Politics. You telling me Ilbe is the only site that have anti-immigration threads and anti-foreigner postings? Fuck you, go over to hundreds of other Korean sites, and it’s not any more different. It only shows that large number of Koreans still hold xenophobic feelings, and this has nothing to do with Ilbe only. By the way, Joseonjoks are Koreans, eventhough they’re from China, Koreans hating on other Koreans, is not a new theme, nor is it unique to Ilbe.

          • bumfromkorea

            I just can’t find this many posts about the fucking 조선족s and the fucking Foreigners written within 1 week in less than 15 minutes in other sites. I also can’t find this many posts about how the kimchi bitches need to stop taking their men’s money and start cooking more written within 1 week in less than 15 minutes in other sites.

            Other sites? They’re the ones with the “few trolls” while most people talk about other things. That’s the one with the few bad apples. Ilbe is a barrel full of writhing maggots. That’s why I can find so many maggoty posts from Ilbe so easily and quickly.

          • Xman2014

            You are being dishonest here. Really, I’m serious. It’s no secret that Joseonjoks are not well liked by South Koreans in general. That’s because they have a very large visible imprint, which you see in those pictures of Chinatowns. Again, you’re trying to make it seem as if this is only an Ilbe issue, when it’s not. You can find just as many, if not more racist stuff in other sites. You’re searching and looking for racist posts, you’re going to find them, no matter what site it is. I just don’t understand your anger and obsession. You need to take that medication to calm down.

          • bumfromkorea

            You can find just as many, if not more racist stuff in other sites.

            Show me. I wonder if you can find as many racist stuff posted within 1 week in 15 minutes. And, you know, try not to post ones with “ㅇㅂㄹ”, “ㅁㅈㅎ”, “운지”, etc. in it, because that would be too hilarious for me.

            By the way, I love the way the bigot charge pissed you off so much more than the misogyny charge.

          • Xman2014

            From your own link, I found this link.


            “중국의 자랑스러운 소수민족이고 ‘짱께 만세'”
            China’s proud sub ethnic people “hail to the chinks”

            “무섭다 저기가 중국이야 우리나라야”
            Frightening, is that China or is it really Korea?

            And unlike 2 replies in Ilbe, there are 1650 replies, mostly the similar type of response. Again, do the searches in Daum and Naver, and both of them have far more comment activities. They are complete bigots over there when it comes to immigration issues.

          • bumfromkorea

            LOL Daum and Naver? The Internet PORTAL/news sites? That’s what you come up with?

            Oh man. You are one hilarious little 일베충.

          • Xman2014

            Ilbe is not much different from those news sites, at least in the way, the comments are shown. Fine, go to other forums like DC Inside, you won’t find not much difference when it comes to the use of the word 짱깨 as the second verb. One member there even committed suicide because he was harassed offline. If you are so outraged at injustices, how is it that sites like that get a complete pass? Is it because sites like Ilbe doesn’t conform to your political viewpoints?

          • bumfromkorea


            Stormfront user: It’s not just us! Just look at the comment section on and!

            Me: Those are news portal sites. Stormfront is a forum/community.

            Stormfront user: So? They’re basically the same! Fine! What about those other sites? They’re racist too!

            Yes. They’re racist as well. Unfortunately for you, little Bug, your little Hive of filthy Ilbe bugs have overwhelmingly consistent contents showing bigotry and misogyny (the latter which you don’t even bother to contest anymore, by the way). Oh, and again, DC inside as a group never attacked, harassed, and insulted the victims of Sewol and their families like Ilbe bugs have since Day 2 of the tragedy. Ilbe has actually manifested into real life with those disgusting “eat-ins” as well as general vandalism against the memorializing apparatus of the Sewol victims.

            There is no comparison. Ilbe bugs deserve to be socially ostracized and stigmatized – especially Post-Sewol.

          • Xman2014

            “DC inside as a group never attacked, harassed, and insulted the victims of Sewol”

            Yes, they only attack immigrants and other weak people who can’t fight back. Again, if Ilbe is a Stormfront, then DC Inside is a Neo Nazi site. You’re really a strange one.

  • HaydenG

    This is retarded. Both sides are liberals by American standards. They don’t talk about economic and social policy.
    they just talk about stupid stuff like who should be blamed for the stupid boat sinking.

    I’m so sick of hearing about that boat. South Korea is an entire country of drama queens.

    • bumfromkorea

      Oh, go fuck yourself. Your boredom with the Sewol disaster has literally zero relevance to whether the South Korean society should consider it to be relevant or not. Writing “I’m so sick of hearing about that boat. South Korea is an entire country of drama queens” on what is considered a national tragedy that occurred not even 1 year ago is pretty fucking narcissistic.

      Hope you don’t get too annoyed when the Koreans start memorializing it in about 2 months. In all fairness, it *is* the 1st anniversary of the tragedy, “stupid boat sinking” and all.

      • HaydenG

        I read your comments.
        You are trying to exploit the deaths of children to make a political attack on a president you don’t like.
        It was an accident. Similar tragedies happen several times a year across the world. Other countries dont do this when there’s a ferry accident.
        Stop using the dead as political pawns and forget about the boat. It’s disgusting behavior what you and others are doing.
        Attack Park gun hye with something else. Not the dead children.

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        • Xman2014

          Yup. And this too, as pointed out in the article:

          “Internet progressives who resort to emotionalism, calling for justice, spread like an epidemic because they enjoyed the sweet pleasure of feeling moral superiority through blindly shouting anti-government chants without any logic. For them, the government is the perfect scapegoat to blame every problem in their life as the primary cause.”

          Also explains bumfromkorea trying to blame Korean public’s apathy towards emergency vehicles and safety consciousness in general, on the government again.

          Next, he’ll claim Koreans hack and spit because there is lack of trust in the Korean government. They blame everything on the government. But those same criticisms magically goes away when that government is a Liberal Party in power.

          I think what a lot of Ilbe users are waking up to the fact is that, for years, they were had, by the left leaning media and the internet campaigns by few who manipulated public opinions. Protests against “US Mad Cow” of 2008 perfect example. Other examples, the 2002 US tank incident where two schoolgirls were killed by accident. The two tragic deaths were exploited to the maximum to raise anti-American feelings and to disrupt the US-Korea alliance. In both cases, Korea’s version of the Chinese fifty cents internet army went overdrive and started spreading lies and rumors online, which got picked up by the left leaning media who played upon it. The Koreans, like lemmings, followed them, without even understanding what was happening. A number of us look back on those days, and see where the public manipulations happened.

          • bumfromkorea

            Ah, the resident Ilbe bug. Thank you for shoving words into my mouth, which, I fully expect of from something like you.

        • bumfromkorea

          Fuck you. This is what I wrote about PGH when the tragedy happened:

          “The simple truth is that while the Sewol Tragedy isn’t President Park’s fault, it is still her responsibility. 즉, 잘못은 없지만 책임은 있는거죠. A wiser politician in her place would have apologized immediately, publicly and officially for incompetence, corruption, lack of oversight etc. etc., say a few well-written statements about expressing her 애도, and offer a specific course of action she will take as president to address the shortcomings (repeating the ones widely publicized, like investigating the Maritime Police, cracking down on the company and the maritime regulatory organizations). The “Park administrations killed these kids!” angle then would have lost its edge (nothing mutes a criticism like a public apology), and Park would have more room to maneuver.

          Instead, she and her administration has been too busy
          offering excuses after excuses after 변명s. Listen, in the long run, no one except the UPP was going to say that the tragedy was Park’s fault. Everyone knows it’s not Park’s fault; hell, even the parents who are specifically blaming Park right now probably knows. Park administration is the surgeon who is arguing (face turning blue) with the grieving family over how her procedures and techniques are not to blame for the death of the patient who died 30 minutes ago. Just say sorry and sympathize.

          There is political opportunism from the far left at work here, absolutely. But conservatives probably should’ve
          kept their mouth shut about how they’re all North Korean instigators and 좌빨종북 on this issue, because now they’re the assholes who’re calling the grieving families leftist zombies instead of letting their opponents be
          the cynical assholes using the grieving families for their political ends. We got Saenuri morons mouthing off in public like a bunch of Ilbe pests – one even directly accused a specific parent of being an impostor instigator.

          As for the NYTimes ad… who cares. No one reads paper news anymore. I don’t even remember the last time I saw
          someone actually hold a newspaper and read them in real life. Let them waste their money – NYTimes could use the money, that’s for sure.”

          Seriously, go fuck yourself.

          • ..

            Fuck you.

      • ..

        oh fuck you.
        Why the fuck are you talkinging with swears?
        Don’t you have any manner?

        It is totally insane to protest about a boat for one year.
        You guys are using the disaster for your political weapon.

        Get the fuck of.

        • lol

          fuck off is correct. Your stupid. lol
          but I agree with you.

          • Jesus Christ

            You’re… Fucking moron.

    • RINO

      You’re foolish. American conservative also don’t talk about economic and social policy. American conservatives talk about “stupid stuff” like who should be blamed for the stupid killing of Americans in Benghazi…

      I’m so sick of hearing about that attack. The USA is an entire country of drama queens

      • HaydenG

        This comparison falls flat on its face. Benghazi was a consulate and an ambassador was murdered. Defense of diplomatic facillities is the sole responsibility of the US government. A ferry boat is not the responsibility of the government. Its a private company.

        • Matt

          What a joke. Ferry accidents happen. So does terrorism. Blaming either on the president just because s/he happened to be president is utterly moronic. Benghazi is a vacuous political talking point and everyone with any degree of sense knows it.

          • HaydenG

            Why were multiple requests for more security denied by the state department in the weeks before the attack?
            Why when the attack began was the military given a stand down order when they were already on the planes ready to take off?
            Why did the president lie and say it was a protest in response to a video for weeks when cia reports show the president knew within an hour it was a planned terrorist attack?
            You don’t have the answers to any of those questions and that’s why Congress is still investigating as we speak.
            BTW Congress still has not been able to interview the survivors because the white house won’t allow it.
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  • Xman2014

    Here’s the evil site in question. wooooo…. it’s so evil……

    It’s so evil that topics include, fashion, anime, computers, games, smartphones, girl groups, universities, celebrities, history, politics, etc etc.

    I guess people have problems with the sections on politics, which gives off a conservative leaning vibe.

    • bumfromkorea

      Calling for someone’s vagina to be ripped to pieces? Pretty evil to me.

      • Xman2014

        Someone complaining that women, despite having 1.5 times number of washrooms that men have, are coming into men’s washrooms to do their business. The poster uses the word boji-nyun, “bitches” or “cunts”, and there are couple of replies in the post.

        Big freaking deal. (shrugs).

        • bumfromkorea

          Couple replies, and enough “일베로” to make it one of the 일간베스트 – meaning it was one of the more popular ones of the day. Which topic that you wrote above would you categorize this as? Fashion? Anime? Computers? Games? Smartphones? Girl groups? Universities? Celebrities? History? Politics?

          I mean, some Saenuri politicians can be a bit crude when it comes to gender issues, but I don’t think “conservative leaning vibe” can really accurately describe the “rip the c**ts of the bitches coming into Men’s room”. At least, that’s not how I’d characterize the South Korean conservatives.

          • Xman2014

            You’re really over the top with moral outrage, aren’t you?

          • bumfromkorea


  • Ilbe

    people are hatin cos they got trolled

  • guest

    All this drama over a site that only gets 20,000 users per day? I honestly thought it was bigger. As usual, you have people bitching about things that don’t even matter, even in this very comment section. “Oh no, they posted a picture that hurt my feelings”, “oh no, they made a crude joke.”

    Why people have to get into such a frenzy over what other people do in their own corner of the internet, or even the perfectly;reasonable protests they hold in real life, I’ll never know.

    • Sillian

      All this drama over a site that only gets 20,000 users per day?

      Simultaneously, not the accumulated number of unique IPs per day.

  • iah

    The conservative minority being oppressed by progressives. In Korea. Ha.

  • Patrick Henry

    Actually, only 3% of a population has to achieve vocal consensus for the rest to assume it is the norm. If three people scream on stage, the crowd (97) cheers, each one assuming everyone around them agrees with those on stage. This is related to the bystander effect.

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