Park, Abe: “Let Bygones be Bygones” on Anniversary of Ties

Article from Edaily: [June 22, 2015]

Park: “Let Bygones be Bygones”, Abe: “Let’s Begin a New Era Together”

In a statement on June 22nd, President Park Geun-hye said, “It’s important that we put the heavy burdens of our past to rest with an attitude of reconciliation and mutual collaboration.” Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe responded with a statement on the same day, saying, “Let’s look back at the development of positive relations over the past 50 years as a prediction of the next 50 years and step forth into this new era together.”

President Park and Prime Minister Abe each attended events hosted by the embassies of the their respective nations at the Seoul Westin Chosun Hotel and the Tokyo Sheraton Miyako Hotel, respectively, to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between the two countries, and express their intent to further develop their relationship.

President Park stressed that, “It is our responsibility to future generations that we make this year, the 50th anniversary of normalization of diplomatic relations, a turning point towards a future of new collaboration. Our governments must combine the hearts of both nations into one and work together on those issues requiring attention.’

Prime Minister Abe concurred, stating that, “Stronger collaboration between Korea and Japan, as well as between Korea, the United States, and Japan, is crucial for the peace and stability of the Asia-Pacific region. Korea and Japan are the most important neighboring countries. Responding jointly to regional and world issues and collaborating internationally will lead to the fortification of our new relationship.”

President Abe was the first to declare his intent to attend the embassy event on June 21, causing Park to respond at light speed. Analysts claim that if Abe were to unilaterally commemorate the day, Korea could be branded domestically and abroad as disinterested in the development of Japan-Korea relations. Those in the diplomatic realm predict that there is a good chance of a Japan-Korea summit unfolding within the year as a result.

However, many predict that without top-level discussion of the ongoing comfort women issue or a mention by Abe of past offenses at the 70th anniversary of National Liberation Day, organizing a Japan-Korea summit or even a Japan-China-Korea summit may be difficult.

Fukushiro Nukaga, Head of the Japan-Korea Parliamentarians’ Union, was granted audience at the Blue House by President Park on June 22, where he pressed that “Through trust-building diplomacy, I hope that we can heal the wounds of the past and give new energy to our relationship. In his remarks for the upcoming National Liberation Day, I look forward to Prime Minister Abe continuing the tradition of recognizing history that previous Japanese cabinets have held fast to since 1965 so that we can progress towards resolution and cooperation.”

Comments from Naver:


With whose permission do you let the past go? Our president is a lowly traitor. Is she a president or a chicken? So she’s gonna just kill our country with her lack of responsibility and her big mouth, huh


What’s up with that speech, trying to smooth everything over without a proper apology???


She’s running a dictatorship, just like her father


Madame President, you’ve gone too far.


for goodness sake…


Is this your country? You’re just gonna fuck everything up, huh


What on earth is she saying? Has she completely lost her senses?


Fixing the economy is important, but not with this kind of degrading diplomacy… and honestly you haven’t done much good for the economy. This is an embarrassing and humiliating day. Are you not at all sorry towards the victims of Japanese rule? Did your family eat well back then by sympathizing with the Japanese? You don’t have the right to make a resolution with Japan.


Not an apology but a resolution?


The really fascinating thing is that the person who first normalized relations with Japan despite public protest was her father President Park Jung-hee…


Do you not have any pride damn seriously


You really shouldn’t speak so carelessly, I beg you


Park can’t do anything right at home, how could we expect her to do a good job abroad? Ugh


Are we really going to be so subservient? “Let bygones be bygones”? This is too much…


Is this a joke??? This situation is serious, damn

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  • commander

    Abe, a revisionist leader of Japan, appears to believe that if Japan’s relations with China improve, South Korea will ask for smoothing frayed ties with Japan.

    This view is widely shared among scholars on Japan in South Korea, who argue for the two-pronged approach to Japan: One is to seek cooperation in military and economic areas and boost cultural exchanges between two geographically proximate but psychologically distant countries; the other is to continue its talks with Tokyo to persuade it to confront historical truths.

    In the words of pundits speaking of the necessity to lift the nation out of diplomatic rows with Japan in a warning of possible isolation of Seoul in fast-changing dynamic in Northeast Asia, a pursuit of cooperation with Japan doesn’t mean that South Koreans condone the wartime wrongs committed by Japan nor overlook unrepentant denials inspired by Abe’s “beautiful country” vision.

    Cutting off diplomatic dialogue, stopping political and economic cooperation until Japan is awakened to acknowledge its wartime atrocities sharply diminish South Korea’s room for diplomatic maneuvers.

    In Northeast Asia, where 19th century European style power struggle has taken hold and 21st century interconnected issues requires multilateral cooperation, the nation needs to engage Japan in broader exchanges with South Korea, thereby seemingly unbridgeable differences in historical matters could be debated in earnest in civil societies of both countries, a long term solution for South Korea to present diplomatic stalemate.

    • Xman2014

      Diplomatic relations go as far as each nation’s national interests. Let’s disregard for the moment, all the insults and unacceptable behaviors that Japan hurled at Korea during the last couple of years in return for South Korea’s insistence on Japan solving the Comfort Women issue. When both countries don’t see each other as economically important to each other, then there is no point in this charade. I see that South Korea’s exports to Japan has sunk another 15% this month as anti-Korean feelings in Japan has swept up that country’s consumers and their media. Yet Japan’s exports to Korea is up again, as Koreans don’t seem to mind that Korean products in Japan are being shunned. Korea also sends second most number of tourists to Japan, as Korean tourism to Japan is still increasing. Looking at all these, I understand why Koreans feel betrayed by President Park’s moves to mend fences with Japan, when Japan hasn’t shown one iota of respect for Korea. If anything, it should be up to Japan to keep their best customer (Korea) happy, not Korea, dancing around Japan to nudge them into better relations. What Park government did was terrible.

      • Paranoia Teitaikyo

        Oh god, the funniest post I have ever read. You made my day. Really. Xman2014. You are one absolute fucking joke

        • Japanese Nationalist Fanatic

          I notice the Japanese nationalists scour all the internet sites and leave their marks. That’s the real joke.

          • chucky3176

            It’s called the Japanese “Hwabyeong”.

            Rise of Japan’s middle-aged virgins: a quarter of over-30s have never had sex


          • Papi

            Considering Korea has a lower birthrate and a prudish form of Christianity, not to mention the internet addiction problem then the ratio of Korea virgins must be around 30-40%. You’re a virgin yourself I believe despite being in your late 30s.
            That’s why despite being an OCED country, despite having universal high quality education and low unemployment (for now) 250k South Korean women choose to work overseas in the sex industry (50k in Japan). Why would these 1st world women (enough to fill 9 football stadiums!) choose to join SE Asians and South Americans in the brothels of NYC, Tokyo, London, HG ect? Because the alternative is to spend time in the company of Korean men.

  • Paranoia Teitaikyo

    Reading korean netizen’s comments, one thing for sure, both Japanese and korean netizens agree on one fundermental. Park is a helpless leader. Isn’t it nice to know?

  • TalkStraight

    Study Chosun Dynasty, Study Meiji Period. You will find the answer to this problems.

  • One thing is for sure, if SK-JP-CN ever do mend ties and hold a summit; that’s the South-East Asian Triumvirate for you right there.

  • lonetrey / Dan

    shut the fuck up. That’s what I want to tell each and every one of the netizens.

    I’m really sick and tired of people fighting against peace and/or progress. I feel like I’m reading about a bunch of rednecks and neanderthals every time I hear something like this. (no, I know that’s a blatantly over-generalizing statement.)

    Ugh, I woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Hoping the article will read better when I am awake for a few more hours.

    • Sillian

      Just curious. Do you also feel strongly about netizens always being hawkish in domestic politics? “Lefty zombies vs. conservative idiots” for example. Or are you annoyed only when the conflict is international? In fact, I find this interesting after having observed many expat comments. Most of them seem to react strongly only when the matter is international. But should it be any surprise, considering how stubborn and fierce they are when they fight for domestic issues?

      • lonetrey / Dan

        Well, honestly, I feel this way about this very specific type of conflict of opinions in general. If someone were to wave in front of me an example from my own country, I would undoubtedly say the exact same thing.

        However, it’s a bit more unlikely for big-named politicians in my country (USA) to be openly criticized for trying to make peace or work with other friendly nations. Heck, did you hear how Donald Trump is getting dumped on for his comments on Mexicans? (yes, I know Trump is a poor example. He’s hardly a politician.)

        My point is that if this were to happen in America, say Clinton or Bush said something about making peace with Canadians” or (more realistically) the Middle East, people wouldn’t say “YOU TRAITOR. STOP MAKING PEACE.”

        At most, they’d probably say “We tried! Stop it, it’s not working! The Middle East just doesn’t want peace with us!”

        I like to think people want to work for a better future. When there are blatant examples of netizens clamoring against this I just ask myself, “What, do these people NOT want peace? Do they NOT want things to improve??”

        • Sillian

          Because the netizens do not see it as ‘improvement’. They are not just saying “Stop making peace.” They are essentially saying “Make peace only if the other party does this or that.” There is no war between Korea and Japan. No life is threatened because of some disagreement between them. They are rhetorically arguing about what’s right or wrong. There are lots of Koreans who would almost never make peace with the Korean government because they think the government goes against their values. Is it progress if they just ‘make peace’ with the government? There are things those dissenters should still obey no matter how much they hate the government. Given that they are not killing the officials, burning government buildings etc, should they still shut the fuck up because they have to ‘make peace’?

          • lonetrey / Dan

            Well, my main takeaway msg from this is that most of the translated comments were “Peace is unacceptable without an apology!”

            And sure, there’s no war between Korea and Japan. But the improvement and peace I’m talking about is not about saving lives, but just improving attitudes.

            As for your point about making peace with Japanese OR Korean government… well, they’re the ones who voted their own officials in, aren’t they? If they’re all for changing the officials, go for it, make a loud statement! But don’t pull down a gesture that was intended to improve attitudes between two government in the process.

            Also, i think not killing officials and burning buildings are standard procedure. The fact that they’re not doing those things shouldn’t be counted in their favor…. it’s what everyone is expected to do, right?

          • Sillian

            And sure, there’s no war between Korea and Japan. But the improvement and peace I’m talking about is not about saving lives, but just improving attitudes.

            You see, I was trying to make an analogy. ‘Improving attitudes’ is also applicable to domestic politics, isn’t it? Then, would you also say “Why can’t you guys simply shut up and get along?” when people argue about a number of social issues within the same national boundary? Isn’t it rather natural that people with conflicting interests and values argue? I’m not talking about blind hatred. I’m talking about arguments and setting things straight for their perceived righteousness.

            As for your point about making peace with Japanese OR Korean government… well, they’re the ones who voted their own officials in, aren’t they? If they’re all for changing the officials, go for it, make a loud statement!

            You know, half of Korean voters didn’t vote for the current president. So you say they can loudly complain about the Korean government. Is it any different if they want to loudly complain about the Japanese government’s stance regarding issues with Korea and also the Korean government’s handling?

            My question for you is this.

            When should they shut the fuck up?
            When can they make a loud statement?
            I’m just curious about your consistent standards.

            Also, i think not killing officials and burning buildings are standard procedure. The fact that they’re not doing those things shouldn’t be counted in their favor…. it’s what everyone is expected to do, right?

            It was a part of the analogy. Such basic rules are kept between Korea and Japan, too. For domestic conflicts, you seem to support people having strong opinions. For the conflicts between Korea and Japan, however, you seem more dismissive. Again, what is the fundamental difference?

          • lonetrey / Dan

            Hmm. Yes, I’m aware that the definition of when it’s “necessary” is opinion-based, so then I can only go with an all encompassing rule that is fair to everyone. Yes, I know that I’m complaining loudly about them so it’s possible to say “Dan! Why don’t you shut the fuck up as well! It’s what you’re telling them to do, so why can’t others say the same to you!”

            So if you would like a general rule from me, I’m of the opinion that in the end, either we can all work together, or we can all work against each other.

            If people want to see the world burn, then by all means, let us all burn the world together.

            But if they want to start trying to settle things… then start trying to settle things. Otherwise, I can get my torch and pitchfork out and be one of those Korean-hating biased people. I mean, that wasn’t my plan, but if the very same Koreans I try to envision a better future for kindly request it of me I suppose I can.

            I’d really prefer to cheer for their peace, a final resolution to this age-old feud.

          • Sillian

            I know you are well-meaning. Like I said, my curiosity is why many expat commenters who care about Korean news seem to be much more bothered by the conflicts between Korea and Japan when there are constant feuds between various groups within the national boundary of Korea. In terms of protests, anti-Japan rallies are almost non-existent compared to large-scale anti-government ones. Why don’t they just make peace with the government to work together for a better future? It’s not that simple, is it? The Korea-Japan feud is not burning the world. It’s not either 100% working together or 100% burning together. It is not Israel vs. Palestine. They are not trying to eliminate each other. There are multiple facets in the relations.

          • Dan

            I suppose so.

            Maybe that’s what the situation really is. I see it as something that should’ve been easy to fix where it’s not, and it’s not even really that big of a deal. But I get frustrated because I think to myself, “Wait, why is this still a thing?! Shouldn’t this have been ironed out a long time ago??”

            In any case, you make many very good points.

          • Chucky3176

            “I’m talking about is not about saving lives, but just improving attitudes.”

            Do you really think this gesture improves attitudes? It did the opposite and gave a huge lift to Abe and his government who celebrated with glee. Abe chortled to his ministers, “see? if we waited them out, I knew they’d come begging to us”. It’s only going to make Japan more radically rightwing and more hardline towards Korea, because the Japanese right wing believes Ms Park gave in to Japan. The Japanese media celebrated their victory. Park had drawn the line that there will be no cooperation with Japan until Japan stops their history revisionism. Her mistake was drawing a line in the sand when she couldn’t keep it in the first place. It would have been better if she hadn’t drawn the line at all.

          • lonetrey / Dan

            If others wish to misinterpret other people’s actions, then that’s on them. If someone wants to do something and then explain it a certain way, there’s only so much we can do to see who’s more believable.

            If you say Abe is indeed a back-stabbing prat, I’ll have to take that with a grain of salt and say it’s really hard to imagine such a prominent professional leader act like that.

            If you say Park is a Japanese-loving ass-kissing traitor, I’ll have to also take that with a grain of salt and say it’s more likely she wants to try and achieve something positive. And probably try and maneuver herself politically to a more favorable position. Didn’t work out for her, whatever her goal was, but still don’t think she’d do something like that.

            I could go on and on, but keep in mind that i’m not implying anything. I’m just trying to prove that I’ve given it thought, and really, what anyone can say is that we don’t really understand politicians, so lets assume what they say is whatever they mean, and try to read between the lines in a way that doesn’t seem to blow things out of proportions.

            I mean… What else can we do? We’re (Koreabang readers) continents away from these people. Hell, people in their own country don’t even know them. Their own wives and husbands don’t even know their own thought.

            So, if I try and interpret them in a way that’s positive… Would you prefer me be the cynic and call both Abe and Park out to be villains in this situation? At the very least, I’d like to think of them as two bumbling politicians that want to try to make things better but end up making things worse.

    • bumfromkorea

      Trivialization of inflammatory historical grievances that has been treated with an endless cycle of “We’re sorry, but not really. Fuck you. And by that, I mean we’re sorry.”… all because you’re bored with it?

      Well, you’re not the only one to say “Jesus, this shit again? God, I’m so boooooored with this! Why don’t they just shut the fuck up and get over it?” on this matter. And if my memory serves correctly, this isn’t your first time getting booooored by the Koreans “not getting over it” either. My apologies for my people not getting over it and boooooring you with this.

      • lonetrey / Dan

        Well, that’s not quite all of what I mean.

        Yes, I’m bored of their repetitive responses.

        No, I don’t change the narrative or way people look at the situation to something new just to suit my boredom with their repetitious answers.

        In any case, what you said is not what I mean.


        Really, I just want people to see that when they approach multiple situations with the same attitude with the exact same results, it’s plainly obvious they should try something new to improve the situation, not repeat til they get the results they want.

        • bumfromkorea

          “it’s plainly obvious they should try something new to improve the situation”

          Which, for Koreans, is to just “shut the fuck up” and stop fighting “against peace and/or progress”. Got it. Just shut the fuck up and get over it. Again, apologies for not shutting the fuck up before about a Prime-Fucking-Minister and the majority party repeatedly calling comfort women slutty opportunistic whores out to get some mo money mo money mo money. Since they continue to do this regardless of the Koreans annoying and boring bitching, Koreans should just shut the fuck up already for “peace and/or progress”. Yep.

          • lonetrey / Dan

            I can’t tell if you’re being satirical… I mean, this is… pretty much Korea’s attitude towards the issue. Feels a little like passive-aggressive victim attitude.

            I’m sure we agree on a lot of things, actually. The comfort women issue seems to be the start of one. But it’s kind of hard to look past… well, a Korean guy acting exactly how everyone says Koreans act in their unfair stereotyping of Koreans.

            Keep in mind, I did limit my original statement to the netizens, and even then I flat out said that I know I was over-generalizing (and therefore don’t take it too serious, having just woken up.) Seems like that point might have not made it across to you.

            In anycase, hope you’re not actually someone who plays the victim card or is actually that passive-aggressive. You seem smart enough to see what I’m trying to say, and I really don’t have the stereotypical image of Koreans in my mind.

            You see, I do try and fight against buying into that cliche Korean attitude. I do hope I’m right about you.

          • bumfromkorea

            Then do enlighten me, the cliched passive-aggressive victim mentality Korean. What exactly did you mean when you told the netizens to “shut the fuck up”? Did I misunderstand your point when you said they were acting like neanderthals?

            Furthermore, am I a cliched passive-aggressive victim mentality Korean for thinking that it’s really fucked up that a Prime Minister and a majority party called former sex slaves willing, slutty, and now opportunistic prostitutes? Or am I a cliched passive-aggressive victim mentality Korean for thinking that trivializing such subjects is really fucked up?

            By the way, it’s really. Really. REALLY. REALLY condescending when you say shit like “In anycase, hope you’re not actually someone who plays the victim card
            or is actually that passive-aggressive. You seem smart enough to see what I’m trying to say, and I really don’t have the stereotypical image of Koreans in my mind.” It makes me think that you’re disappointed that I’m not a good little Korean that you thought I was. Telling someone not to fit the image of their ethnicity’s supposed stereotype (while repeatedly trivializing an important historical issue as “victim mentality”) is, generally speaking, not the best way to go.

          • lonetrey / Dan

            It was slightly condescending, yeah. I can’t deny I don’t like you, but I know the smart choice is to try and work with you to find some meaning out of this situation. Sorry if my attitude gets in the way, I haven’t quite got a handle on the whole politeness thing.

            In my experience, there’s a difference between trivializing horrible historical events and knowing what you have to do to move on.

            Example? Rape of Nanking. I remember feeling so much hatred as a youth when I first heard about it. I thought Japanese people were shit, and they should all be punished now by some method. Afterall, if they didn’t murder kill or whatever so many people back then, who knows how much better China would be today.

            In the end, I realized it makes me look like a self-entitled asshole. I don’t hold responsibility for the people killed back then, I can’t hold the people of Japan today responsible for atrocities their ancestors commited, and I certainly can’t be the judge/jury/executioner for anyone or anything.

            And neither can you, I suppose.

            Yes, I am disappointed that you’re not a better person, but not in the way you think. I’m not telling you, “FALL IN LINE, OR ELSE WE ALL MAKE FUN OF YOU, LOOK DOWN ON YOU.”

            It’s more like… “Please, take a step back, see if you can look at the bigger picture. There’s not that much judgment, because I was exactly like you once.”

            And I’m still like you in some ways. Angry, vindicative. A bit passive aggressive at times.



            What exactly did you mean when you told the netizens to “shut the fuck up”? Did I misunderstand your point when you said they were acting like neanderthals?

            Sarcastic hyperbole. Not meant to be taken seriously, only to paint an idea of my frustration at the time. I’ve gotten over it. Korean netizens don’t affect me, so… I suppose if they want to rage and say whatever they want, they can.

            Don’t take this the wrong way, I really am just asking. Is English your first language? When I wrote that, the “redneck and neanderthals” thing was suppose to be an indication that I don’t really mean it that way. It really was suppose to be a hyperbole. Even if taken seriously, it would only apply to the 10 or so Korean netizens that were translated, and not the rest of the Korean population. Also, the disclaimer in parentheses was also another indicator of sarcastic hyperbole. Just saying, I really am not serious when saying “redneck and neanderthals”. I can see how someone who’s not accustom to English would misunderstand my post. Also, tone is harder to convey on the internet, so there’s also that.


            Look, since you seem focused on the whole “cliched passive-aggressive victim mentality” thing, do you want me to just say what it means (to me) when I see it in the comments section (translated section as well as Koreabang’s section) here?

          • bumfromkorea

            . I thought Japanese people were shit, and they should all be punished now by some method.

            That’s terrible. I have no idea why you’re implying that this is what I think so too, but still.

            I don’t hold responsibility for the people killed back then, I can’t hold the people of Japan today responsible for atrocities their ancestors commited, and I certainly can’t be the judge/jury/executioner for anyone or anything.

            The issue here (and this is commonly made mistake in this issue) is the Japanese politicians making deplorable statements and pushing revisionist history now. It’s not about the Imperial Japanese officials going “Comfort women? Oh, you mean those slutty whores who wanted to make some money?” It’s the cabinet members, Diet, and the PM of modern democratic Japan doing it. Now.

            “Please, take a step back, see if you can look at the bigger picture. There’s not that much judgment, because I was exactly like you once.


            Don’t take this the wrong way, I really am just asking. Is English your first language?

            First, again.


            Second, I don’t think “sarcastic hyperbole” mean what you think it mean.

            Even if taken seriously, it would only apply to the 10 or so Korean netizens that were translated, and not the rest of the Korean population

            It’s not about whether you apply it to the Koreans in general or those 10 netizens. Those 10 netizens are expressing their disgust with Park for, after 3 years of “Hmph! I won’t talk to you then” diplomacy, now just crawling back to Abe with so much opportunity cost and absolutely nothing gained. It’s the idea that you present, that it’s against “peace and/or progress” unless the Koreans just “shut the fuck up” and let bygones be bygones. Labeling what those netizens were talking about with “victim mentality” (A word so loaded, it basically folded on itself into another dimension) is precisely the problem.

            Look, since you seem focused on the whole “cliched passive-aggressive victim mentality” thing, do you want me to just say what it means (to me) when I see it in the comments section (translated section as well as Koreabang’s section) here?

            No, I’d rather you tell me more about how you were like me once, but you’ve found the light since.

            That’s sarcasm.

            See the difference?

          • Dan

            Why would you defend the netizens if you don’t have a dislike towards Japan is beyond me. If you’re totally ok with Japan… then telling people who are hating on Japan to shut it would be ok with you. There’s an inconsistency here… Which really makes it seem like you’re just angry at… something? and are just picking a fight/trolling. Nitpicking at little details like “sarcastic hyperbole” or phrases that I use. Signs that you don’t really have a point to make and are just throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks.

            Plus, your usage of internet picture/memes only make it seem more like what I’m thinking is true.

            Well, it seems like we can’t find any common ground then. At this point, it’s not worth either of our time to say anything more. Sorry you’re… well, you.

          • Paranoia Teitaikyo

            Excuse me for just a bit of interferene. Scumfromkorea thinks ..not only Abe and his cabinet members but also entire Jaapnese as the enrtire Japanese electorate for having elected Abe as the Japanese Prime Fucking Minister…. all of them SHIT. He is a pure hater. nothing less.
            He doesnt have slim sense of Japanese voting system, and as opposed to your impression abbout him, he is just a mere shortsighted emotional gyppo who starts his everyday life day posting hates towward Japanese.

          • Dan

            Ah. I didn’t know that about him. I actually don’t know anything about him, so I try to assume the best about him… or at least hope for the best with him.

            Thanks for the information >_<

          • Paranoia Teitaikyo

            “Again, apologies for not shutting the fuck up before about a Prime-Fucking-Minister and the majority party repeatedly calling comfort women slutty opportunistic whores out to get some mo money mo money mo money.”
            Besides, if this scumfromkorea can prove the above statements as what he claims as Japanese official stance of current PM and his cabinet toward this issue, he should put the link or whatever necessary. He is just smartly insulting entire Japanese citizen. no matter how smart he sounds, he is nothing more than just a scum

          • Guest

            Japanese nationalist troll, you’re not allowed to have multiple user names on the same website (Rutim?/Paranoia Teitaikyo). Don’t make personal attacks either. The only one being hateful is you, with your personal attacks.

          • Paranoia Teitaikyo

            There may be not only Rutim who critisizes you
            Mods once told you can use multiple names as long as using one in the same thread, which is what I do sometimes, and better than just a “Guest”.
            Personal Attacks? Hey, everybody does here in KB and JC, that was what I faced when I first post a few years ago
            by bunch of gyppos, so ugly they were.

          • bumfromkorea
          • EganW
          • bumfromkorea

            Oh Rutim. When will you ever write comments that aren’t 100% personal attacks? Well, the mods let you do this constantly, so I guess you have some stamp of approval.

          • bumfromkorea

            Ah. Now we are arriving at the important bit. The current argument between you and me exist because you believe that there are only two sides. “totally ok with Japan” and “people who are hating on Japan”. This false dichotomy that you created for yourself unfortunately does not fit either me or any of those netizens. I don’t have to be either “totally ok with Japan” or be “hating on Japan” – there are MORE to a person’s opinion than just the two polar extreme opposites, especially on a complex subject like Japan-Korea relations.

            To me, it’s clear that all you want to do is just label me as some caricature of angry nationalistic gyopo. It’s okay. You aren’t even remotely close to being the first one who finds that sort of thing convenient. So argh argh argh Korea #1 fuck Japan i’m so angry argh, and have a nice day.

  • HaydenG

    Koreans need to lose the victim mentality. Nobody has any sympathy for a country that was colonized over 100 years ago when real atrocities are taking place today.
    70% of the world has been colonized. Get over it.

    • 금정산

      The victim mentality is part the Korean national identity. I think it’s understandable, but detrimental on many levels. Few Koreans have lived outside their country for long enough to see different perspectives.

      • Kiko2909

        Japan is a country where an innocent Korean girl’s comment: “I think Japan has a lot of different cultures that’s why lot of people visit Japan”, is falsely and deliberately changed by a Japanese TV station as “I hate Japan. They hurt Korea”. This is a major TV station in Japan, a mouthpiece of Japanese government, and not a rightwing nutcase fringe group. That incident is one more evidence that lies by the Japanese media and the Japanese government have hit an all time low.

        The rising of extreme nationalism and racism in Japan should be everyone’s worry, not just Korea’s or China’s. Rising intolerance and blaming of all of Japan’s problems to other countries doesn’t help the relations between Japan and its neighbours. I am not South Korean, but I don’t blame Koreans for their feelings.

        • Paranoia Teitaikyo

          The very instance she mentioned such was errounesouly used against wrong translation. But she actually mentioned more or less the same thing as the original translation in other moments in one film. The editor just used wrong moments. You didnt know? Call Fuji-TV and ask if you want to make sure.

          • Kiko2909

            Bull shit. Do you think people both in Japan and Korea are stupid? If this was really an accident, why haven’t Fuji released the scene where the girl is supposedly saying she hates Japan? Surely if the girl said she hated Japan, Fuji TV should have that scene? And it doesn’t make sense that she would say she hates Japan, after she clearly said on camera “I think Japan has a lot of different cultures that’s why people like to visit there”.

            And what do you say about the South Korean’s man’s comments which was also changed? That was accident too? I bet all the other interviews were also fake too. It’s just that nobody could hear what they were really saying in Korean.

            See this is what I hate about Japanese people. They just can’t face up to the truth. There’s always an excuse to explain away the unexplainable. That entire show was a complete provocation towards South Korea, making fun of their culture and society and their president. It’s not just the fake interviews, the entire format of the show and its immaturity was the problem. It was embarrassing and ashamed for the Japanese who were watching that show with a logic of a nine year old. The show was two hours in length on prime time Friday night, seriously?

          • Paranoia Teitaikyo

            Bull Double Shits!! Rather than you try sneakingly to disgrace Japanese, (if you lived most of your life in Japan as half-Japanese), why don’t you look up at HP of Fuji-TV and it’s explanation on the accident. If you cannot believe, just make phone call and ask more specific. You are the one of those most powerful drivers who try splittig up these two countries from inside of Japan. Get the fuck lost

          • chucky3176

            History of Japanese broadcasts says otherwise. Netizens have long memories.

            This interview of a Korean pop song writer on Japanese TV being interviewed in 2011 or 2012.


            The question was “which Japanese music do you like?”. He answered in Korean “I don’t particularly have anything in mind, I just like to listen to variety of good Japanese music”. That was translated by Japanese TV station into: “There are just too many good Japanese music to listen to that I just can’t count. It’s true that Korean music is a copy of Japanese music”.

            Notice the host is the same host who is the center of the current controversy. So is it coincidence that the host keeps mistranslating Korean interviewees?

          • Paranoia Teitaikyo

            And as for the man’s comments, he mentioned exactly as translated in other moments. That s the editing errors too, as far as explained by TV station. Look I have fucking no interest to protect Japanese TV stations. I dont fucking care if they did it intentionally or not. I jjust told you what I know.

          • chucky3176

            I didn’t want to intervene here, lest I be accused of Japan bashing again. But I can’t let you off with this claim.

            First, FUJI can clear this up if they can publish the videos where Korean interviewers are reported to be saying they hate Japan. It looks like they don’t have the videos because they lied.

            Second, this is not the first time deliberate lies like that which are designed to fan anti-Korean feelings in Japan. We have a long list of history of Japanese broadcasts that are deliberate fabrications of Korean interviews. This is not the first time, and it won’t be the last. For example, look here.

            Fabrication of Kim Yuna’s interview:


            The place where she says:

            “Thank you dear IOC members for proving someone like me the opportunitiy to achieve my dreams and to inspire others.”

            is translated into Japanese:

            “To the IOC members, to achieve my dreams, please support Korea instead of supporting other cities”.

          • chucky3176

            Don’t try to make excuses for the TV station. Japanese TV stations have a long history of fabrications.

            Another example here in 2006. This is what’s considered “news story” in Japan. Koreans supposedly claim Confucius was Korean.


            Notice the Japanese TV show give no sources or any evidence other then “Koreans claim this and Koreans claim that”.

            I can go on for days with examples of fabrications like this in Japanese TV. But I’ll stop here with three good examples.

          • 습습습

            This is a fact.

            Koreans don’t “think” Confucius is Korean, we KNOW it. Chinese claim him for no reason. The thing is historically Confucius was born of a family that was from Korea, he himself was born in Korea but traveled from county to county and spend most of his life in China.

            Mind you at this time “China” did not even exist. So stop your propaganda. Have you ever read Conficius? You know nothing about him and come here talking your non-sense, typical of a white dude.

          • Bucktooth Jap Midget

            You should only use one ID, “습습습”/”Paranoia Teitaikyo”/”Papi”/”guest”. I suggest you use the ID, “Rutim”.

          • Guest

            “습습습,” You’re clearly not Korean. You are a Japanese nationalist troll pretending to be Korean and spreading lies. The Japanese frequently pretend to be Koreans/Chinese/Americans/westerners with their user IDs on Youtube and message boards. Look at the following:

            Japanese nationalist pretending to be Korean threatens Japanese princess.

            Japanese nationalist pretending to be French man defending Japanese culture stole German model’s picture.

          • Emai1

            That person with that ID can be ( 대만 국적 한국반토막 대만 짱개!!!!!!!!!!!) Many of them spread Anti-Korean online, Act Korean online with Japanese Right Wing Attitude. Most mentally fucked up group of people in Korea. In Korea they act like Chinese ( Taiwan), In Taiwan they act like Korean, In Japan they act like Chinese, in China they act like Korean.

        • 금정산

          I don’t blame Koreans either, but I think they need to take a newer and more mature perspective.

          I don’t know the circumstances of that incident. How did the Japanese people respond to the false translation? Surely it would work against the TV station and government if people found out.

          • chucky3176

            How did they respond?

            FuJI is run by Koreans.
            FUJI did this deliberately to damage Japan.
            It was just an honest mistake, but the girl really did say it.
            FUJI is dumb and got caught, they should have been more careful.


          • Japanese Propaganda

            Here’s the actual 2 hour hate propaganda show and the Japanese netizen fascist reaction comments to the show.


            The writing in the video reads:


            Approximate translation is “Why do they doubt Prime Minister Abe’s speech, and the reason for their anti-Japanese behavior”.

            So disagreeing with Mr. Abe’s policies/speeches, and Japan’s attempt of historic revisionism is considered “anti-Japanese” in Japan. That’s a pretty narrow band to define anti-Japan. By that definition, it seems you are also anti-Japan.

          • 금정산

            ‘Anti-this’ and ‘un-that’ are just names made up to enforce allegiance. When really, people can have multiple and conflicting views.

        • Jahar

          Your reasoning seems to be, “Japanese people seem to be more and more racist, so I understand hating Japanese people more and more.” I hate you because you hate me, so you hate me more, so I hate you more. Perhaps the reason for their animosity is (to them) the undeserved hatred they receive from the koreans.

      • Paranoia Teitaikyo

        Park mentioned before that the position as victims (and as wrongdoers) never change for 1000 years. Korea and the people have been exploited and humiliated terribly by Chinese
        for that 1000yrs+. How are they digesting such miserabe history and focusing on bashing Japan only? do you think?

        • Sillian

          I personally support pragmatic attitudes but let me point this out because I’ve seen a number of Japanese netizens citing the remark from pres. Park in the wrong context. She didn’t say Korea and Japan will be a victim and a perpetrator for the next 1000 years. She meant such HISTORY will not change or get whitewashed even if 1000 years pass.

          • Korea

            No such thing as Sillian. Shilla people were Korean.

        • 금정산

          1. That’s a misrepresentation. Park would never say that; it would be political suicide.

          2. The problem with your argument is a matter of degree. The relationship as a colony to Japan was far worse than as a tributary to “China”.

          The Japanese try to justify colonial rule by claiming that Korea went from a colony of China to a colony Japan, but the circumstances were very different.

          • Paranoia Teitaikyo

            “The relationship as a colony to Japan was far worse than as a tributary to “China”.
            The Japanese try to justify colonial rule by claiming that Korea went from a colony of China to a colony Japan, but the circumstances were very different.”

            “Far Worse” …. “Very Different”

            Yeah maybe, if, based on evevrything you have been taught. Maybe not, if you judge yourself based on many of which, believe or not, sound different from what heard from very old people , who confess very seacretlly in Korea and in Taiwan, esepcially from the point of views of the people of the decnt of discreminated lower classes


            You took our land, our language, our culture, our women. more than anything TOOK OUR PRIDE !
            The deep-rooted grudge, inprinted badly for a century.

            Look at what is now happnening to “the Mediterranean Sea Refugees” (from Africa to Europe). They barely escpaed their lives from the hells in their homelands, tryig to speak English, Italian, French,(whatever necessary for help) desperately to settle in europe.

            They wouldn’t dare to claim like, “Don’t you take our language, our culture, our way of life”?

            The same happended back in 20years ago. so much of refugees boats from China. It happened 70years ago too. So many refugees from the penninsula escaping from civil war. Japanese society accepted both.

            Naiive humanitarian sometimes sound cheap when you think REALISTICALLY about humane history and the survival.

            Lower classes of the society must have been more than happy to abaondone its language(they don’t even wright or read the language anyway), culture, citizenship for survivals. Especially so when living from hand to mouth, being abused, humiliated by handful despicable privilegded classes. Your homeland needed changes by external pressure, which could not have happended internally

          • Paranoia Teitaikyo

            or could have been colonized far worse by Russians

          • 금정산

            I’m not Korean. I grew up with an interest in both Japan and Korea, so my perspective on history has been neutral. Thanks for the passionate lecture.

          • Jahar

            They say that when Japan invaded Korea the hundreds of years ago, Koreans feared their Chinese allies more than the invaders.

    • TeacherMSN

      Including USA and Canada. Did South Carolina lose the victim mentality over 100 years ago??

      • HaydenG

        what are you talking about?

    • JEng

      ply Abe with red wine and good Chinese food and he tells a different story:

      which Chinese restaurant was it?

      Did the attendees videorecord the posh dinner on their hackable smartphones? or maybe accidentally record?

    • Anime and School Girls Oh My!

      Nothing like a white person to interject and tell Koreans to “lose the victim mentality.” Thank you, oh great White Person for your invaluable input regarding East-Asian relations. Fucking weeb.

      • HaydenG

        racist ass.

  • 금정산

    This inadequate and perfunctory. Abe claims the issues surrounding comfort women and conscription were dealt with in the 1965 treaty. Sure, the compensation was delt with but what Koreans really want is a sincere apology.

    The apology given in 1965 was restrained and insincere. The Japanese people need to wake up to their history and see the atrocities of the past. A sincere apology from the government will ony arise from a push lead by the Japanese people. It should not only be directed to Koreans, but all nations who suffered the atrocities of the empire. The Japanese people live in the benefits of a nation built from its empire and should acknowledge its past wrongs.

    If Koreans want an apology, they need to appeal to the Japanese people. Sadly both nations narrate a distorted history to their people with a dose of national pride. I know few Koreans and Japanese who are mature enough to have such a discussion. Even within friendships they barely talk about.

  • 금정산

    For those who are unfamiliar with the historical background of this “event”:

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    Well I saw the headline expecting rage and anger pointing in no general direction.

    I was right. Thank you internet. So far the only way you haven’t disappointed me is your ability to disappoint me.

    • Kiko2909

      Lived most of my life in Japan. Not anymore after getting out of that hellhole. The translated comments are pretty mild, compared to what Japanese say about Koreans online and in person (they didn’t know I am half Korean).

      • guest

        The translated comments are from Naver a Korean site and posted by Korean netizens (there si even Korean writing as the source). That you can’t tell the difference shows that you are neither Japanese nor Korean, just another aging, monolingual, obese gyopo living with mommy in America/Canada with a downs syndrome face and a prescution complex.

  • TeacherMSN

    Problem with Koreans is that education system do not teach balance perspective view on Korean History. Modern day Koreans/ Modern day Korea crises traces back to Chosun Dynasty. How many Korean teachers teach Chosun Dynasty in balance perspective??? Probably none.

    • bumfromkorea

      Problem with Koreans is that education system do not teach balance perspective view on Korean History. Modern day Koreans/ Modern day Korea crises traces back to Chosun Dynasty. How many Korean teachers teach Chosun Dynasty in balance perspective??? Probably none.

      I do like that you’re sheepish enough to put a “probably” in there on a subject that you *literally* have no idea about. Attempt and failure of 탕평책 in the mid-late Chosun dynasty, consequent fractured politics, attempt and ultimate failure of 대동법, consequent systemic corruption, consequent decline of the “free” farmer class, and consequent national overdependence on 소작 system all led up to the events of the late 19th and early 20th century. And all covered in the history classes.

      • Think2Disqus

        Think before you write. You make no sense at all. Your paragraph clearly displays your stupidity. Next time stick to one language English or Korean.

        • bumfromkorea

          Think before you write. You make no sense at all, because you haven’t written anything other than insults. Next time, learn at the least what 탕평책, 대동법, and 소작농 are before trying to engage in a discussion about the Chosun dynasty.

          • Korea

            병신 놈아 한글 아니면 영어 써. 짱개 놈아!!!!!!!!!!!

          • bumfromkorea

            한국이 주제인 이 영문 사이트에서 이런 개소리를 하는 니가 더 병신같은데?

          • Korean

            영문 사이트 인지, 한글 사이트 인지. 짱개 놈아 병신처럼 대답. 너 대만짱개 냐??

          • bumfromkorea

            “영문 사이트 인지, 한글 사이트 인지. 짱개 놈아 병신처럼 대답.”

            ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 한국어 공부 좀 더 해야겠네?

          • Korean

            역씨 대만짱개 처럼 대답. 큰 기대 업다 짱뽕 배달하라 빨이 시간이 돈 이다.

          • KoreanUrbanPeninsula

            개소리 는 한자 시각적인 밥통 놈아. 영문 인지 한글인지 너 인생 정신 똑바로 생각하면서 써라.

  • actionjksn

    I get that you Koreans are mad at what the Japanese did to you. But the people responsible are probably all dead now and you two countries should be allies now, it would be in both your best interests. If you want them to pay for their crimes, I can assure that they did, because we flew a plane over there and dropped two nuclear bombs on their asses. I would say that is pretty good payback when their people stood there watching their skin melting off and all their homes being disintegrated. The Japanese probably should offer a sincere apology, but I have to wonder if even that would be good enough for you. It was about what, 70 years ago? It’s time to move on, the Japanese are not like they were then. This generation seems to be pretty peace loving now.

    By the way, the reason the Japanese did not invade us is because they knew most of our citizens have guns and that we would all be hiding in the bushes and popping out and shooting their asses full of holes all day and night. No place would have been safe for them if they had invaded us. This is one of the reasons we have a 2nd amendment right to bear arms. The other one is to make sure our own government does not get too far out of line. So we don’t end up with a government like with Fidel Castro, Mao Zedong, or the like the Imperial Japanese government back in the old days when they were committing atrocities. That’s why we get so pissed off when people from other countries tell us that we need to ban guns here in America. We’ve never lived under a dictatorship because we don’t take shit anybody. If anybody ever comes here and tries to take our women for “comfort”, we would literally show the invaders how we commit brutal atrocities on them. There would be no comfort for the invaders. I sometimes wish somebody would try invading us so I could try out my toys for real. And there are literally millions like me. We’re mostly peaceful but we’re also ready.

    • Xman2014

      “I get that you Koreans are mad at what the Japanese did to you.”

      Boy, you’re not even in the same ball park. I’m not even going to bother, other then you’re totally off and wrong!

      • actionjksn

        Okay, and sorry I hurt your feelings

    • xv

      That’s because America only fights countries they can beat inhabited by stone age people. Look what happened when you tried it on with Vietnam, you got your asses kicked. Also what good will your guns be against drones bombing you from 20,000 feet? Seriously, do you not think that people in Iraq and Afghanistan don’t go running around with AK47s?

    • takasar1

      what utter nonsense. americans think that because they ‘have guns’ and occassionally go hunting that they are immune to/warding off brutal occupation, lol, as if a trained army couldn’t just obliterate any and all urban centres and then carpet bomb the remaining hotspots o insurgency…

  • bultak23

    Nice hair!

  • chucky3176

    Japan won UNESCO world heritage status for 23 of its modern industrial sites after conceding to South Korea’s demand that the registration make clear some of the locations used forced laborers from the Korean peninsula.

    This is the first time ever in history, that Japan admitted that they used forced laborers from Korea, China, South East Asia, as well as captured allied POW’s. Japan was forced to admit this, because the Japanese government badly wanted to register these sites with UNESCO because Japan regards them as crucial sites where Japan developed industrially, by skipping the part where they used forced laborers from around the world. But they ran into heavy South Korean opposition who said they would oppose Japan’s registration if Japan did not tell the full truth of these sites.

    Japan will now have to install an information booth about the forced laborers who worked and died in these sites, forced to educate the world about the forced laborers that Japan denied existence in the past. This will be a great place to visit for these people who want to learn about the brutality of Japan’s Imperial power that started the war in the Pacific in WWII.

    • Xman2014

      As soon as Japan registered their sites, they took back their words and said they never agreed to use the words “forced laborers” with Korea in the first place. Japan will take out the word, “forced”, and will just mark the sites as where “Koreans were allowed to work”.

      LOL.. that’s Japan for ya. Nothing they do, even go this low, is even surprising anymore.

      • chucky3176

        Hilarious, and just proves that all those skepticism by Koreans about Korea and Japan coming up with an agreement, were not born out of nothing.

        And Korea even sacrificed and relinquished a very important point to Japan, by promising not to use Japan’s new admissions at UNESCO, to push for compensation for the forced labourers. Korea generously gave and agreed with Japan in good faith, but Japan now says “I had my fingers crossed, what I said two days ago, doesn’t count”. “Being forced to work”, doesn’t mean it was “Forced labour”. It didn’t take long for Japan to backstab.


  • elizabeth

    Why hold on to the past and live in conflict as enemies when you can have peace and a prosperous future together as friends?

  • Hyung-Sung Kim

    My great-grandfather was born a slave in 1893 (over 90% of Koreans were slaves at the time) and was delighted when Japan annexed Korea in 1910 and liberated slaves because he would have never been able to attend schools if not for the Japanese. My grandparents were born in 1920’s and experienced Japanese rule firsthand. They had nothing but great things to say about Japanese. Then after the end of WWII, the anti-Japanese brainwashing began in South Korea. The military dictators such as Rhee Syngman & Park Chung-hee massacred hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of their own people. (google search “Bodo League massacre” for example) In order to cover up their atrocities and maintain legitimacy, they needed an enemy, and Japan was an easy target.

    My father was born in 1950 and was totally brainwashed in schools. My grandfather used to tell me that my father would come home from school and tell him how evil the Japanese were. My grandfather would tell my father that was not the case, but my father would have none of it. It was only after my father left South Korea that he realized he was totally brainwashed. Had he stayed in South Korea, he would still hate the Japanese, and so would I most likely.

    The average life span of the Koreans doubled from 23 years in 1910 to 45 years in 1945, and the population doubled from just over 12 million in 1910 to over 25 million in 1945 due to the institution of modern healthcare under the Japanese. (google search “File:Population of Korea under Japanese rule.png”) That doesn’t sound like a brutal rule.

    Professor Alleyne Ireland of University of Chicago was the leading expert on colonial administration in Asia. He gained deep knowledge of Japan’s annexation of Korea from his visit there in 1922. The following are the excerpts from his book “The New Korea” originally published in 1926.

    “My opinion of Japanese administration in Korea has been derived from the consideration of what I saw in the country, what I have read about it in official and in unofficial publications, and from discussions with persons (Japanese, Korean and foreign) who were living in the Peninsula at the time of my visit.

    It is true that at the time Japan annexed Korea in 1910, the actual conditions of life in the Peninsula were extremely bad. This was not due to any lack of inherent intelligence and ability in the Korean race, but to the stupidity and corruption which had characterized the government of the Korean dynasty, and to the existence of a royal court which maintained a system of licensed cruelty and corruption throughout Korea. Such was the misrule under which the Koreans had suffered for generation after generation that all incentive to industry and social progress had been destroyed because none of the common people had been allowed to enjoy the fruits of their own efforts.

    From 1910 to 1919 Japanese rule in Korea, though it accomplished much good for the people, bore the stamp of a military stiffness which aroused a great deal of resentment.

    The New Korea of which I write is the Korea which has developed under the wise and sympathetic guidance of Governor-General Saito. At the time of my own visit to Korea in 1922, the Governor-General had nearly completed three years of his tenure in the office. The following is the list of measures Governor-General Saito introduced upon his arrival in 1919.

    1. Non-discrimination between Japanese and Korean officials.
    2. Simplification of laws and regulations.
    3. Prompt transaction of state business.
    4. Decentralization policy.
    5. Improvement in local organization.
    6. Respect for native culture and customs.
    7. Freedom of speech, meeting and press.
    8. Spread of education and development of industry.
    9. Re-organization of the police system.
    10. Enlargement of medical and sanitary agencies.
    11. Guidance of the people.
    12. Advancement of men of talent.
    13. Friendly feeling between Japanese and Koreans.

    The general consensus of opinion in Korea in 1922 was that Governor-General Saito had been animated by a sincere desire to rule Korea through a just and tolerant administration, that he had accomplished notable reforms, that in the matter of education he had ministered very generously to the cultural ambitions of the people, and that in regard to their political ambitions he had shown himself eager to foster local self-government and to infuse a spirit of friendliness and cooperation into the personal relations of the Japanese and Koreans.

    Discussing Korean affairs with a good many people (Korean, Japanese and foreign) I found almost unanimous agreement on two points: one, that native sentiment had shown a continuing tendency to become less anti-Japanese in recent years; the other, that the remarkable increase in the country’s prosperity had been accompanied by a striking improvement in the living conditions of the Korean people at large.

    Writing now, four years after the date of my visit, and having in mind the most recent accounts of the state of Korea, I can express my conviction that there has occurred a steady and accelerating improvement in the general conditions of the country, in the administrative organization and personnel, and in the temper of the intercourse between the Koreans and the Japanese.”

    • Disgusting Nippon

      Your grandfather was a midget Nihonjin with European clothes, who are you trying to fool here, Rutim?

    • bumfromkorea

      Your great-grandfather was born a slave in Korea in 1893… 7 years after inheritance of slavery status was abolished by King Gojong in 1886? And he was delighted when the Japanese liberated Korean slaves in 1910… 16 years after slavery was abolished in 1894?

      Lol… if you want to make shit up, at least do some basic research first.

    • lepetitsarcastique

      So under Japanese rule, Korea was a fairy paradise with flowers, the roads were made of licorice, the houses, of chocolate and sugar, and everything was kawaii, kawaii?

  • TruthHurtsToday

    Chosun Dynasty, Meiji Period two nation took different route made big differences today.

  • Korean

    Korean Peninsula need ( Unification under South Korea Government, North Korea nuclear weapon). Japan will stop fcking around.

  • Kamen

    Understand wider perspective. Read Chosun Dynasty and Meiji Period. Starting point two nations took different path to life and development.

  • KoreanPeninsulaKP

    Chosun Dynasty, Meiji Period set the path two different nations.

  • Cheriemartyr

    Koreans and their “victimize agenda ” when are they going to admit the atrocities against Vietnamese… or their Chinese citizens there lol. Smh, get over it already Korea!!

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