New Regulations on Downloading Porn Confuse Netizens

The laws governing porn are set to change

The government decision to crackdown on underage porno has had many online users scrambling for cover.

With the public outcry over the high-profile pedophile cases, the authority’s unveiled plan of action was to investigate the online storage services where underage porno was easily accessible and through which much of the underage porno circulates. This move was seen as a part of wider efforts to choke the flow of illegal adult contents, it also encouraged many online users to search elsewhere, namely peer-to-peer sharing networks such as BitTorrent.

However, downloading through the BitTorrent protocol also means that user downloads and uploads from each other simultaneously, therefore anyone found downloading underage porno will be doubly charged for not only possession but distribution as well. Currently the possession of underage porno is punishable by the South Korean law.

However, the negative online reaction to the new enforcement appears to be missing a point, i.e., that the enforcement targets underage porn, not adult contents in general. While some of the criteria seems questionable at best and a misguided effort at censorship at worst, it is unlikely to encounter much resistance given how readily accessible illegal underage porn has been on the Korean web space and how frequently the online storage industry turned blind eyes without any effort to filter or screen them out.

From Seoul News:

Porn-downloading Men Tremble With Fear of Being Prosecuted

● Only those who upload ‘regular’ porn will be prosecuted

With a series of high profile sex crimes, the police have investigated approximately 250 web-storage companies and began a sweeping crackdown on the production, distribution and possession of adult content featuring minors, leading to much confusion and trepidation among porn-downloading men. While some are discussing the merits and demerits of the new regulations and potential ramifications for those ‘indiscreet’ downloaders, others are complaining about the heavy-handed nature of the new regulation being enforced. On a web-cafe [forum] set up on Naver called ‘Adult content crackdown response forum,’ over 600 articles were posted, mostly asking ‘When charged for distributing adult materials featuring minors and under-aged children, what should I reply?’ or ‘Am I in danger of being prosecuted for possessing or downloading ‘regular’ porn?’ The confusion further intensified when the Suwon Public Prosecutor Office announced plans to charge anyone in possession of adult materials featuring minors. The current criminal code only prosecutes for distribution of pornographic materials. However, criminal charges could be brought on against not only distributing but downloading adult contents featuring minors.

● And what about women in school uniforms?

Porno featuring school-uniformed woman

A legitimate criteria?

But the questions over the actual enforcement rages on. What’s especially problematic is whether adult females donning school uniforms qualifies as under-age pornography. The police maintains that if the person gives the impression of being underage even if she is over 18, the case will be charged as possession of illegal adult content.

One netizen, who is being summoned by the police, asked if he would be registered as a sex criminal and if his future employment opportunities would be in danger if found guilty. A person convicted of a sex crime cannot work in an educational setting under the current criminal code.

● Are all men potential criminals?

In some quarters there is growing concern that the government is treating all men as potential criminals. One netizen called the standard of law-enforcement as ‘too subjective’ and wondered if watching the movie ‘A Muse‘ (that depicts love between an old man and a high-school student) should be punishable under the new regime.

Comments from Daum:

ㄹㅎ:

Let’s bring it to public discussion and kick-start the domestic adult entertainment industry. We need a proper adult culture for sure…

텔레토비:

Every single TV music producer featuring girl-groups ought to be prosecuted. They have been producing obscenity. Any men caught watching them also ought to be thrown behind bars.

수:

Fucked-up South Korean law, illegalizes all men… ke ke ke

독순애:

I really want to know what’s legal to download and what’s not. Fuck it, let the government handle it.

야인:

Why only men? Women should be treated equally as ‘potential criminals…’

윤순영:

The Ministry of Gender Equality and Family (MGEF) has done it yet again…..;;

초록은내꿈:

Not sure about other things but please punish anyone convicted of making porno with children to the maximum degree. They should be locked behind the bars.

미확인인간:

Crackdown on how women dress as well!

심심해용:

Instead of trying to suppress basic human desire, think rationally. Sexual crime exists because of porn, is that not ridiculous? How about sex-education and/or the legalization of prostitution? The more you try to repress, the more deviant people get. Let it vent a bit and if you use the morality shtick, you might as well kill all men, they are potential rapists after all. Over-generalize you say? Criminalizing porn-watching is the over-generalization to the highest degree.

너의뱃속:

Fuck off and get rid of room-salons and massage rooms first…. They are cherry-popping and us poor folks can only afford porn on the computer, and now they are taking that away as well…

Victor:

Hey, second-hand smoking kills so possession of tabaco should be made illegal. Those in possession of kitchen knives should be treated as potential murderers so they should be thrown in jail too. In fact, throw anyone who sells knives in jail.

김나윤:

Eliminate red-light districts, and sex crime skyrocket. Female police chiefs even recognized this. The current public pressure is being mobilized by the Christian female groups and police going for an easy score. All the advanced countries allow red-light industries.

이긍:

And if women watch porn?? You think only men watch it? MGEF, answer me!! What will you do when women distribute those pornos?

짱구지:

Are they nuts? So now we will get elementary school children convicts… You government dipshits, all this is caused by social alienation and dislocation, not because of porn. Let me ask you, is there any public prosecutor who has never seen porn????

노가리원츄:

Femi-nazi shitheads score yet again. Drop this shit and do your best to prosecute the sexual predators, k?

유리:

Please let’s put a stop to the circulation of underage porn or anything that reminds them of it… Some think it’s alright not knowing the harmful effects. Children are to be protected for our future, NOT objects of sexual fantasy.

아름다운마음:

I knew they would blame porn again…. In the US, Germany and Japan, porno is legal… This shithead administration, MB and PGH… those idiots. A number of researches suggest that there is no positive correlation between porno and sex crime, but they ain’t listening and they’re at it again.

acecart:

Do something about how TV celebrities dress first… All the girl-groups dress really obscenely but adults watching some porn is a problem? I really don’t think so. I have no idea whoever cooked this up but please think first…

dday:

Don’t watch porn you shitheads, your soul will rot away

하루보리:

Anyone here who is not a paedophile or school-uniform fetishist??? Don’t watch that junk, why bitch so much. There are other pornos out there, delete those loli-pornos and uniform-cosplay pornos and get over it.

봉까:

Yah, the Internet, TV, newspaper, magazines, let’s all get rid of these and go back to Joseon dynasty.

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  • 바나나

    I blame Lee Myung-bak

  • Ruaraidh

    I’m a little confused, the title and comments imply that consumers of any type of pornography will be targeted, whilst the body of the article suggests that it is only pornography involving minors that is a problem.

    Pretty much no one would argue against banning underage porn, are the commenters just being sensationalist and misrepresenting the actual intentions of the government?

    Also that woman in the pictures… school uniform or no, if you can look at that and get aroused you’ve got some sort of hardcore sexual deviancy. The question of whether school uniforms, and other simulated underage themes, should be considered acceptable is an interesting subject however.

    • Justin_C

      Hi Ruaraidh,
      Thanks for this. Well, it is a bit confusing! I had to do some research meself and here’s what I figured out so far

      1. the gov: anyone distributing underage porn online will be prosecuted
      2. the public (men): that’s fine, we don’t upload anyhow (other than very dedicated few who’s been making money by doing so)
      3. the gov: all the web-hard (online storage services) services will be investigated for illegal (underage porn) materials
      4. the public (men): fine, we will use TORRENT instead
      5. the gov: TORRENT users will be charged for ‘uploading/distributing’
      4. the public (men): YOU CANNOT SEND US ALL TO JAIL!!!

      the reason for the reaction above is because initially the govt plan was to go after those people making money off of uploading underage porn on the web hard-disk services…. so people stopped uploading on to the web hard-disk providers, forcing many porn-consumers to migrate to use TORRENT instead.

      the problem is that because of the nature of the torrent technology which forces you to UPLOAD and DOWNLOAD at the same time (one automatically ‘distributes’ as soon as one downloads) that it put fear into the online porn consumers.

      in fact, a number of people has been summoned by the police (allegedly) for using torrent to download porn already…..

      I did not have the time to contextualise this information… but you gave me the opportunity! my thanks and apologies :)

      • Ruaraidh

        Thanks for the clarification. Also great site by the way, I really appreciate your efforts.

        • Justin_C

          Very kind of you :)
          Thank you – I quite enjoy it as well. So many interesting/random stories and opinions I get to read here… haha

  • Chucky3176

    In the west, it’s against the law to have under-aged porn in your computer. A lot of people have been arrested for this.

    But what’s needed most is the strengthening of the punishment for sex offenders. It’s far too lenient.

    • Justin_C

      yeah… not sure about the reaction really…
      all you have to do is NOT WATCH UNDERAGE PORN!!!

      it’s not like they are prosecuting regular porn….. just paedophile ones!

      the school uniform is a bit funny one, granted :)
      but i don’t see any objection on the ground of freedom of speech and what not, so they are just complaining :D

      • 미대협

        There was a case of a guy being arrested for underage porn in the US, but it was actually just a really petite pornstar (Little Lupe) who makes her living pretending to NOT be 18. I guess she’d be an easy target of this new law? She actually came out and got the guy cleared, thanking him for liking her work. Interesting case.

        • Brett Sanbon

          A university professor was arrested this past spring in America after the tech guy found child porn sites hidden away. The professor had deleted his browsing history, but never cleared the cache. Glad he’s in prison!

    • Ruaraidh

      A lot of people get caught sending their computers to be repaired. Whilst I agree with you about harsher punishments, sadly I’m not sure they’d be all that effective. It seems from studies of paedophiles, that they tend suffer mental deficiencies beyond attraction to children, including a reduced ability to empathise and tell ‘right from wrong’. Part of this deficiency probably includes not rationally considering consequences of their actions.

      • Justin_C

        hmmm, mental deficiency you say? a bit difficult to generalise in this case (since that probably applies a lot of other things), but i agree that whilst it is very psychologically satisfying to see harsher punishment being dished out, it is not particularly a good deterrent (Saudi Arabia should be 100% crime-free if this theory holds).

        well, i am not a criminologist but yeah, more education? prevention is always more effective it seems…

        • k

          I’m sorry, but totally disagree with the education is the answer Justin….there isn’t enough education in this world to help the men who go out and rape 7 year old children. Those men are sexual predators, who can only get sexual gratification out of raping young children and there is absolutely no rehabilitation from them. It’s been well documented in the USA that child sex predators are beyond the help of any rehab/re-education program……they are simply damaged, predatory, sick men/women and the only solution for those kinds of people is life in prison, hidden away from society. Frankly I’m in favor of death sentencing them, because they are absolutely a waste of tax payer money. The USA puts dogs down for less.

          • Justin_C

            Education could take many different forms, K ;) (regular beating with steel pipe was pretty much a part of curriculum where I grew up unfortunately…)

            I get your general drift, that they are beyond any help and incorrigible, that they are just beyond human, etc…

            But if like you say that they are damaged and sick, then I am led to think that they are just unfortunate genetic f@#ups, which is no fault of their own, thereby removing guilt and responsibility for their action.

            Of course they can be entirely apathetic to what they have done (probably), but we can teach them NOT to do it again. That was my drift :)

            In any case, I am more for preventative methods – one child injured is too many, imo. And no guillotine will be able to undo the damage already done.

            Thanks for your thoughtful comment, it made me think hard :)

    • k

      Wow Chucky, the first time I think ever that I 1000000000000% agree with you on something!

  • Stories of butts

    Wow making porn with 18+ women dressed up as school girls illegal seems a bit… harsh.

  • buzzbee

    From what I can see, regular porn seems to be safe.
    I think the government is trying to catch pedophiles. They have been under pressure from parents and need to be seen to be doing something, especially in an election year where there has been high profile crimes against young people.

    Anyone remember how it was before Swirley face guy, it was around the time of the 2007 election. Lee used this as a way of boosting popularity and introduced some of the crazy regulations we have now.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Paul_Neil
    http://briandeutsch.blogspot.kr/2008/11/christopher-paul-neil-convicted-in.html

    I get why they are targeting females in uniforms, very few sites come with clear information on the actors or actresses. A 20 year old can look like a 16 year old or a 16 year old look like a 20 year old. You can’t be sure. At least the regulations seem not as severe as some countries such as Australia. That and the consequences or punishment seem not so bad when compared to some countries.

    • Chucky3176

      It’s not the age of the actresses that matters, it’s the promotion of act of pedophilia that matters. So that too should be a fair game to the law enforcement.

      • Ruaraidh

        I’m not sure that people who view simulated underage pornography should be punished, after all they are viewing adult models regardless of how questionable the content is. The manufacture of simulated underage pornography should probably be stopped however.

    • Yu Bumsuk

      Wouldn’t you be more worried about sites that make a 16-year-old look like a 20-year-old than ones that make a 20-year-old look 16?

      BTW, are these Korean men (and perhaps women) sharing domestic and foreign porn or only Korean? You would assume someone would try to make some Korean porn that’s better than what’s on the upper channels at love hotel TVs.

      • anonymouse

        Korean porn sucks, tbqh. :x

      • Chelle

        Yu Bumsuk, both cases are causes for concern.

        It would be illegal for a 16 year old (who is underage) to be in a film, whether they are made to “look” 20 or 17 or 16. This would already be illegal and abusive to the underage 16-year old. In this case, it is on-face illegal for both the distributor and those who coerce child sex.

        In the case of making a 20 year-old look 16, this concerns people for the normalizing affect this could have, for encouraging the sexualization of youths. This supports a rape culture where children become sexually objectified and consumed in media.

  • Paul M

    I wonder if these regulations will affect the K-pop industry. Seeing girl groups in hot pants, bikini tops and thigh high boots grinding and thrusting away on stage makes me wonder if it really is enhancing the people’s enjoyment of the music. When ‘Wonder Girls’ first became popular weren’t the members still in high school? I remember way back when Britney Spears’ Hit Me Baby One More Time’ came out, I found the video quite creepy – was I the only one?

    • Patrick

      Guess you waited until after you graduated high school to have your first sexual experiences. Many start earlier.

      • Paul M

        Nope, 16 and with an older woman (I think she was about 24). Guess that experience set me for life as my wife is 4 years older than me. Teenagers lusting after other teenagers is fair enough but 30+ year old men and teenagers?

        • Anonton

          A new member of tara will be joining soon and she is only 14.

          I think in a boy group there is a 15 year old too.

          What is scary is IU’s ‘uncle fans’. Yes she may be of age now, but i don’t like the way those older men sexualise her.

          • Chelle

            Totally agree that the sexualization of child performers is incredibly creepy. I am disturbed by the entertainment companies that design their acts and costumes, too.

    • Cuddycream

      I’m 30 and I lust after teenage girls. 80,000 years of evolution vs, what, about 150 years of society telling us women aren’t sexual objects until they’re 18?

      • k

        Really? You find girls who are barely out of childhood sexually attractive? Men who go after those girls are sick……seriously how is a 13 yr old more sexually attractive then a 20 yr old? Men who lust after teen girls who are barely out of childhood are just sick…..those are children, mentally they are children…..they dont have the mental capabilities to understand the consequences of sex…..society evolved because they realizex this and if you havent then you sir are an admitted pedophile and i hope my child never encounters you in life.

        • acorn

          i strongly suggest you stay away from ILBE then…. bahahaha

        • Cuddycream

          You’ve made the crucial distinction yourself without realising to: “Men who go after those girls are sick.” I find some girls between the ages of 15 and 18 sexually attractive, of course I do; and most men, if they’re being honest, will admit the same. But would I ever have sex with any of them or “go after” them? No. So what do you think about that, you annoyingly self-righteous martinet?

        • Tippy Long Stocking

          the fact that they cannot reason like an adult is exactly why these pervs find them so sexually stimulating. these are weak-minded men who get off on thinking htey can manipulate or coerce the innocent into sex. it’s fairly demonic. They are broken flawed individuals whom the average woman would see through immediately whereas a child cannot so easily spot such demons.

      • mr. wiener

        Oh you do , do you?
        Well I’m in my late forties and am 100kgs of rugby playing man…. and I lust after men in they’re thirties who lust after teenage girls.
        I bet you just had an panic instinctive tightening of the sphincter reading that.
        …….evolution is a funny thing isn’t it?

        • Cuddycream

          Eh? Lust after whomever you like. It seems like you’re suggesting that men who find teenage girls sexually attractive should be subjected to some kind of punitive rape by yourself or other large men. I’m making the point that it’s natural for men to find teenage girls sexually attractive. Finding them sexually attractive isn’t the same as sexually abusing or raping them. You’re welcome for my having explained banmal, by the way.

          Incidentally, I’m betting if you weigh that much and are in your late 40s, you’re pretty fat.

          • mr. wiener

            Just trying to spin that one and give you an idea of what it might be like for people to sexually objectify you…comfy feeling? I doubt it.
            Coming on to a story about porn and talking about your “lust” for teen girls are you honestly surprised you got a flak? You can say it’s natural if you like, a libido is a libido after all, but we all go through an oedipal phase of our life too and that don’t make f*cking your mother right.
            Point is I don’t particularly want to hear it [thanks so much for sharing though] and I’m not fat, I’ve had to work very hard to gain this amount of weight.

          • Cuddycream

            How would I know? People might constantly sexually objectify me all the time. As long as they keep it to themselves, what possible difference could it make to me? If they started raping or molesting me, or making lewd comments about me, or watching pornography I’d been forced into, then it would be a problem. YouseewhatI’msaying?

          • Cuddycream

            I’m not surprised at all – but I’m trying to say that there’s a more nuanced, complicated debate here than a lot of you seem to be willing to admit. Is it really that outrageous to say that some men find some teenage girls sexually attractive? I’ve been painted as some kind of child pornographer or sex attacker, which is not the case. You say you don’t want to hear it – but why wouldn’t you expect my kind of responses in a post about pornography? Isn’t this the issue we’re discussing? Incidentally if you want to talk about oversharing, I have no interest whatsoever in your physique or metabolism; you felt the need to tell me how you could physically overpower and rape me.

          • mr. wiener

            Rape you?
            “I lust after men in they’re thirties who lust after teenage girls.”
            Are you suggesting my use of words has a different meaning to the same ones used by you?
            Sorry to confuse or disappoint you but such was not the case. I was, as I said ,giving your post a different spin.
            I will admit you are correct about relevance. On a post about pornography a statement about the desirable nature of teen girls is not wandering too far off topic. I just hope you aren’t a middle school teacher.
            Must go admire myself in the mirror :)

      • k

        And women arent sexual objects for men to abuse……we are human beings….we have feelings, goals, hope, families, we are mothers and wives , have careers, feel pain….women arent some kind of dehumanized piece of meat and the men, like you, who think like that are the men who destroy young girls and women through violence, rape, pedophilia, slavery and oppression. I bet you are single because i cant imagine any woman findjng scum desireable.

        • Cuddycream

          My point is that I find teenage girls sexually attractive – but I’ve never raped or abused any or had sex with any since I was a teenager myself. I think you’re extrapolating quite a lot by accusing me of being someone who dehumanises/abuses women through violence, rape, paedophila, slavery and oppression. I’ve never done any of those things and I doubt I ever will. (That was quite a comprehensive little list of deviancy you came up with – you clearly spend quite a lot of time thinking about these things.) I have a Korean girlfriend and so far I’ve managed not to rape/murder/enslave her, but I’ll keep you posted.

          • k

            Hey you are the one saying you find 13 yr old children sexy and that they are sexual objects to you and I wonder how your girlfriend would feel about you finding young teenagers sexually stimulating?

          • Tippy Long Stocking

            I think it is completely sick and pathetic for an adult male to feel sexually attracted to a 13 year old.

          • Brett Sanbon

            To be fair, even though Cuddycream has been acting kind of a dick, I don’t think he ever mentioned 13 year olds.

          • Ruaraidh

            Hah, I typed up an analytical view of this argument, but I can’t even be arsed to post it. This thread is a total gangfuck and pretty much everyone apart from Brett should abandon ship.

            Cuddycream, you’re a bit of a mongo, use passive phrases like ‘find attractive’ rather than ‘lust after’ which implies a much more active interest.

            K & TLS, he never explicitly stated he liked 13yr olds and you’ve both leapt right into the deep end. Slavery, dehumanisation, daemonic, really?

          • Chelle

            CuddyCream, one more big problem here is your opening line, look back at it and re-read it to yourself, particularly this part that you write: “about 150 years of society telling us women aren’t sexual objects until they’re 18?”

            My EMPHASIS added: about 150 years of society telling us women aren’t SEXUAL OBJECTS UNTIL they’re 18?

            It is at best a very very very strange and flawed/disgusting choice of words to make your point, because you essentially say women ARE sexual objects after they are 18, and that society just conditions you to wait until 18… but still the sentence says women are sexual objects.

            I think other posters have done a fine job pointing out the other problematic issues in this thread, but the use of phrasing “sexual objects” and “until 18” is a red flag.

        • k

          He said “teen”…teen years start at 13, he never specified an age, zo I assume 13…:)

          • Cuddycream

            I’d say the youngest girl I’ve ever found sexually attractive since attaining adulthood myself would be 15. Usually 17 and older.

            You can denigrate me as much as you want, but there’s no point pretending that there AREN’T men who find girls under the age of consent (which is 16 in the UK and 13 in Korea, by the way) sexually attractive. 150 years ago girls would be getting married as soon as they reached sexual maturity – they went straight from being children to being adults – and that reflected evolutionary biological imperatives. Since then many societies have decided that young people need time free of sexual relationships while they mature (although a lot of places in Asia, Africa and even Eastern Europe haven’t updated their thinking) but that doesn’t change a simple truth: when I see a young woman who is sexually mature I am biologically programmed to want to mate with her, whether she’s 15, 20 or 27. This idea that men don’t find a woman attractive until she’s passed some nebulous state-set age limit (which of course varies enormously between countries) regardless of a given woman’s actual physical sexual maturity is silly. Call me a pervert or whatever you like: I’m being honest. I’m also capable of controlling myself (it’s not like I have to exert a superhuman effort to stop myself raping young girls) and have never looked at child pornography nor have I ever sexually abused anyone.

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  • 참을 수 없는 존재의 가벼움

    Porn downroader, voiced concerns over whether the recent clampdown upon underage pornography will expand into what they see as erosion of a legitimate right to watch porn materials, are still dithering at delivering their arument in public. This reluctance reflects their perception that watching a porn is legally right, but not a boastful thing in Korean society.

    Crusaduers for elimination of online indecencies say that the sexual fantasy of a grown-up girl in school uniform for sexual arousal might mutate into comopletely horrendous children molestationv, breeding pedophiles. Although it is alleged that prostitution is the oldest job in humankind history, Korean society has seen regulations for protecting minors from sexual assaults or coercion into sex industry laxly executed. Given that some sexual predators arrested confessed to be regular watchers of child porn. I think that any porn material featuring something deemed to be children should be outlawed. The intensive crackdown upon child porn may be a short-term fix, but the recent development of a string of henious sexual crimes targeting children can justify more stringent regulations.
    Now is the time for law enforcers to tighten its regulations, shielding minors from all kinds of sexual abuse, ranging from sexual assaults to porngraphy.

  • k

    Random question for any korean commentator here…..Ive always wondered this: Ok you know how on usa porn sites they have an “asian” porn section? Well on asian sites do they have a “white” “black” sections?

    • Cuddycream

      Yes, of course.

    • Stories of butts

      I think they would label it all under foreign then “white” or “black”.

      • mr. wiener

        Got cable a while back, as an incentive the company threw in free porno..for 3 months. Me a and the missus watched a bit of that then got fed up with it and never watched it again after that.
        One thing though, it got so we could tell the difference between a Japanese and Korean porno. Japanese porn story plots seemed to revolve around women being tricked, coreced, blackmailed or outright raped.
        The Korean stuff all seemed to involve the woman passing out from drinking too much, then the guy carrying her back to his place and sexually assaulting her, weird huh?

        • k

          I would believe that about korean porn…..A big difference between American and Korean men is their boundries with women…..when I was younger and would go to american clubs, I honestly never had much of an issue with american guys groping, grabbing, rubbing against me…occassionally the odd one would but most men did not. However in Korea, I honestly started hating going out to Hongdae and other night spots because Korean men had no boundaries…..every time I would go out, I would be grabbed/groped 20-30 times at any single club a.x korean guys seem to think its ok to do that to girls. Once I was at one of the club lockers, trying to get my things and was drunk and suddenly surrounded by a group of 5 korean guys who wouldnt let me leave (the lockers were in a dark, not many people area) and i got pretty frightened but then my husband came and found me and the guys bugged off but..yeah never had

  • KrZ

    Use TOR based .onion sites. It’s all child porn, biological weapons instructions, etc. You can’t stop the flow of information, you can only make it more technically challenging to get the information.

  • mr. wiener

    Sure to piss a few people off.
    “Give me porn or give me death!”
    “You can have my mouse when you pry it from my cold , dead fingers!”
    ” Beat me whip me kill me ,but don’t take away my porn!”

    Now 80% of computer users will have to find some other use for their computers >.<

  • Markus

    wow hold on a second….
    i thought that this is the whole reason we have the internet… =]

    To tell the truth i think normal porn isnt such a big deal and doesnt need to be blocked from adults however of course child porn is and thats what they should spend time on getting rid of

    • mr. wiener

      I think the Koreans are just peeved that “Japanese style” porn, Schoolgirls, tentacles etc are so popular in Korea.

  • dh

    Lol. Just get a girlfriend.

    • KrZ

      How?

  • Cuddycream

    Finally, an issue Korean pettizens can get passionate about! How prevalent is child pornography in SK? I can’t say in my many, many hours spent looking at porn in Korea that I ever stumbled across any. It sounds like the law has been changed from criminalising distribution to cracking down on possession of child porn too – and it sounds like a lot of these netizens are panicking. Seriously though, there does need to be an actual informed debate about porn and sexuality in Korea. I can buy sex 24 hours a day at any one of a selection of local brothels, but I can’t buy a porn mag and see a woman’s vagina? Doesn’t make sense.

    Also sometimes I’ve seen (online) hardcore uncensored Korean porn with Korean writing scrolling across the top – as if it’s from some cable channel or something. Is this stuff produced and broadcast outside Korea? Or is it legal to show it on subscriber-only cable?

  • Carolyn

    I think this is a good thing and people that think otherwise are disturbing. I think it is odd for people to be watching/ getting off to children having sexual encounters. The thing that most people don’t know/ don’t care to know is that most of these women/ girls are forced into this “job.” I read different articles on it and chances are the girls were sexually abused before they made their big “debut”. I’m happy they are cracking down on this, and hopefully other countries will do this too.

    • Ruaraidh

      It’s funny how many people like to frame women who work in pornography as victims but no one gives a shit about men. Also if you’re saying more adult women are forced to work in the porn than do it willingly, I’d like to see some sort of reputable source for that claim. Your tumblr blog doesn’t count.

      • Justin_C

        Producing a reliable statistically-robust figure on-demand is pretty impossible…? These things are pretty difficult to quantify in any case :)

        On an unrelated but kind of related note, I just heard on the radio a report suggests that in DRC (Dem Rep. Congo), “Journal of the American Medical Association, found that 22% of men and 30% of women in Eastern Congo reported conflict-related sexual violence.”

        http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men

        This war-crime went undetected… until LAST YEAR??? So it is under-reported but more prevalent than people generally expect. It is worrying to that the sexual violence cuts both ways now. I don’t want to see the argument over who is victim and who is the perpetrator but rather people raising awareness of the issue….

        sex crimes in South Korea worry me in general…

        • Cuddycream

          The DRC is a failed state ruled by competing warlords. It’s not really a great comparison to any economically-developed country like Korea.

  • Random Person

    I’m a little confused….so male KOrean netizens are upset that they would get prosecuted for watching.downloading/distributing underaged porn?? WHY WOULD YOU WATCH IT TO BEGIN WITH?????

    • Justin_C

      hence the govt initiative to crack down on it…. people seem oblivious to the issue…? or seem to think that it’s an acceptable thing.

      i have read some feeble effort to align it with the first amendment but nothing in the constitution protects you from breaking the statutory rape law… i would like to see a very stupid/brave netizen challenging the enforcement, which is an administrative statutes through judicial review or something, but so far just some murmurs about how this is a feminist plot to illegalise the korean male existence…

      oh well :)

  • jt

    Laughable. Porn is ‘illegal’, but there’s more pornography and prostitution than I’ve ever seen anywhere in the world. Talk about sex, start using birth control, men and women need to respect and get more comfortable with each other, and watch porn and sexual violence drop to the levels of the rest of the developed world. Korea is off the hook, 2% of the GDP!!! and people are insane if they think anywhere in the world has more porn. Just admit it and deal with it, but not with simple laws, that won’t help. People who victimize children should be removed from the society and beaten. They are sick sick sick. (The other ridiculous argument…’that women work in porn voluntarily…because they have soooo many other options and they like it’ is also crazytown…ask any woman, your mother, your sister, your friend who’s also a girl… The answer will ALWAYS be, only as a last ditch at surviving. Just ask an actual woman instead of speculating that they like it…and if it’s that hard to ask one, well THERE’S THE PROBLEM!)

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