African Artists Face Slave-like Working Conditions in Korea

From Naver:

African Artists Offered Work…Treated Like Slaves

Anchor:

In Gyeongi-do, one art museum is bringing in African artists to perform.

But the treatment of these individuals has been miserable, and criticism of whether or not this is exploitation is pouring in.

Let’s take a look.

Correspondant Bae Ju-Hwan has the story.

Report:

It’s the Gyeongi-do Pochan African Art Museum.

Artists from West Africa’s Burkina Faso perform traditional music and courtship dances.

Here is where they have been living for two years.

It’s an empty farmhouse provided by the art museum.

Mice damage clothes left in the room and leaks in the bathroom are soaking the floor with water.

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“(Museum employees) said things were fine. They mopped the floors but after five days it was leaking again,” Burkina Faso artist, Castro, remarked.

Sculptors from Zimbabwe also found the same living conditions.

The rooms, converted from a farm warehouse, were covered in mold and lacked functioning heating, leading to reliance on electric floor pads to get through the winter.

“There were nights when it was so cold, we had to double-up our covers just to get some sleep,” said Zimbabewe sculptor Lirmo.

In all, there are 12 African artists now working at the museum.

They work 8 hours per day and 6 days per week but only bring in between W600,000 – W650,000 a month, half the legal minimum wage.

“In regards to the pressing issue of wages, if we convert their salaries to hourly pay, it works out to only W3,000 per hour. It falls well short of what was the standard minimum wage 10 years ago,” said Yohan Kim, a certified labor attorney.

When doubts were raised regarding whether the African artists were being exploited, the museum responded by saying there is no problem, explaining that the income was given as specified in the contract.

Museum officials responded by saying: “In addition to their salaries, our employees are given $250 for utilities, such as heating expenses.”

But the African artists are demanding to be compensated for as much as they were shorted below the minimum wage.

Comments from Naver:

yk67****:

A national disgrace. Let’s do the right thing, catch these guys and make ‘em pay.

tlat****:

Our country is #1 in being worked to the bone and getting shit for pay.

0000****:

A national disgrace. This needs to stop.

mypa****:

Cold-hearted bastards. I really hate them. Even if you can’t help others, at least don’t harm them.

nerv****:

We really need an end to our older generation.

anse****:

Honestly, we need to keep in mind ideas like “if the situation were reversed” or “put yourself in someone else’s shoes”. What if we send our country’s artists abroad to work and they meet the same slave-like conditions? We’re would swear up and down about it, too. How ironic! It would be nice if we could show our considerate hearts to foreign artists.

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ehdr****:

Don’t you know that even if you contract them in advance for less than the minimum wage and still refuse to pay them at least the minimum, you’ll get busted?

uniq****:

Dirty bastards. Embarrassing to be Korean now.

bbin****:

These sons of bitches. No conscience either. If you people go to another country, would you like to get the same reception? You lack the basics of good character.

poow****:

The museum director is the secretary general of the Saenuri Party!!!

ehrt****:

[To the news reporter] Why did you leave out the fact that the museum director is secretary general of the Saenuri Party, Hong Mun-jong?

kwan****:

This really ruins our country.

gomt****:

Even slaves are given more than that…Such a national shame…tsk tsk tsk

meas****:

Goddamn museum pricks really tarnished Korea’s image on this one. No wonder Africans think Samsung products are from Japan.

drlu****:

Well, this isn’t the first time something like this has happened. Last time, some agency called over a Chinese circus team and didn’t pay them a dime. These guys are trash. [The agency’s representative disappeared. Upon hearing the news, local civic groups donated to the circus team.]

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  • Mighty曹

    Might as well be named Museum of Slavery.

    • d-_-b

      don’t need to. Korea’s work environments are basically that regardless of gender/skin color. We don’t have the highest suicide rates for no reason.

      • Mighty曹

        But what is the percentage of that is work related?

  • Guest23

    Pretty stupid and shameful, instead of treating them as guests and human beings, they’d rather save some money and treat them like some cheap artwork that gets thrown away later on.

    • Mighty曹

      Exploitation at its best (or worst).

      • Guest23

        Sad truth but glad the story is getting around.

  • shibal
    and during black history month too

    • sheila m

      why do you care? do you really think the blacks give a shit about koreans? blacks are racist too, many of them are. and many blacks don’t like asians in general, not in the americas, or canada.

  • KCdude

    Great. One more reason to be skeptical about this unique Asian country. And we Canadians have a history of protecting the fugitive African slaves from the south of the border.

    • Doge Wallace

      Yeah, but weren’t there enough comments from Korean netizens to alleviate some of that skepticism?

      • firebert5

        “It’s not who you are inside, but what you do that defines you.” -Batman

      • KCdude

        I’m loyal to the Crown in Right of Canada. There’s absolutely no reason for me to be loyal towards Korea.

        • Mighty曹

          Ahhh… Korean Canadian. For a while I thought you were from Kansas. haha!

        • Doge Wallace

          ..

        • d-_-b

          Doesn’t matter who you are loyal to.
          You’re still dog-eating barbarian’s descent, and you wouldn’t have been here if you really don’t care about your roots.

    • Mighty曹

      Interestingly, slavery existed in Canada well into the 1800’s.

    • Impp

      I find it rather interesting the “hate level” Korea gets for some things. Its a thing I’ve noticed after being on chinasmack and its sub networks after over a year.

      You have China with their self genocide and “cultured” past and mainland “ediquette”, Japan with their imperialism/exploitation and weird culture, Germany with their Nazi bull, US and Canada with their Native American interactions (though truth is they were actually mostly killing each other with many taking sides of the “white” man for benefits, IE they knew very well of the concept of wealth/power/exploitation but who cares about the truth right?), recently Canada with their abusing of countries with their resource mining/exploitation, US dominance/world influences, and Europe and all its countries with all the trash that happened in their long histories past and current, etc.

      But for South Korea? Most people don’t really have a good “excuse” to hate on them so common things like underpayed immigrants with poor housing conditions or any of the other articles that has even a speck of dirt is used to cement their “reason” for hating Korea. They grasp at straws because in truth they don’t actually have a huge good reason to hate on them. Stop lying and admit your truth. You were already predetermined to dislike Korea or maybe all of Asia and its countries as a whole. Maybe, deep inside you are actually are racist, but in order to sub divert that truth you try to use “reason and information” to reaffirm that you are not. Or if you are Asian, maybe you are a self-hating Asian. The world has a lot of self haters these days, which brings out their own bias and stronger reactions towards the bad things of their own culture/race/nationality.

      What situation in this article is any different than a Mexican/immigrant worker or labor farmer (etc.) working below pay jobs and living in crappy rundown “homes” in their work locations here in the United States? (these exploited minorities are the backbone of the cheap labor workforce doing jobs that other “Americans” don’t want to do) That is just 1 example from a “1st world country”.
      This is a COMMON problem across all countries, but you are going to use this as another excuse to discredit Korea?

      “And we Canadians have a history of protecting the fugitive African slaves from the south of the border.”
      You guys have dirt just like everyone else. And for a matter of fact the Americas became prosperous because of such slave labors which also benefited your “Royal Crown” greatly. Its the simple truth, the amount of benefits it also brought to the Americas and its soon to be neighbors was massive due to the massive influx of cheap labor. I swear Canadians are more delusional and patriotic than even Americans.

      Stop being full or yourself, stop using dumb reasoning to make you a skeptic, and stop being an idiot.

      • Boris_Da_Bengal_Tiger

        I had written something very long and then posted it and it didn’t come up. Very annoying and has happened a few times on this site。

        So if you don’t have a ‘good’ excuse to hate on Korea, you are either racist or a self-hating Asian?

        • Mighty曹

          Happened to me a couple times. Now I always copy the content before I post.

        • Impp

          Please keep it in context to what I talked about in my post. If a “supposed” non racist has no substantial “dirt” on a specific ethnicity/race to “utilize” as their “reason” to hate/talk smack, but still go out of their way trying to smear them with insignificant things as if they were a region only specific issue or try to paint is as a sin of national scale, then yes I consider that person racist (attempting to use information to subdivert that true tendency), or if he is Asian (specifically Korean), a self-hating Asian.

          I hope I clarified a bit of what I’m trying to say.

          • Boris_Da_Bengal_Tiger

            I haven’t met self-hating asians. I have met people who do complain about their own country or people from it. I do it, both about people in the UK and people from my parent’s country. Some things can be very harsh but has to be taken in context. It doesn’t make me a self-hating brit. I love and hate it equally (and right now I miss it, mainly because of – other than friends and family – food). That isn’t to say there aren’t any self-hating Asians or Koreans.

            But, pretty much your post looks to be saying that people have justified reasons to hate the other countries you listed but not Korea. I am just saying that isn’t the case. I know of people who have lived and worked in Korea, China and Japan. Some loved it. Some hated it. All had their reasons. I can’t comment on all the posters here, but I do believe there are people who comment here that have lived in these countries

            Anyway, saying all that (the comments I wrote here were written in the original thing I wrote that didn’t get posted) you are right – there are some who hate for those reasons on Korea.

      • Exactly.

        Lots of ethnocentrists on this site. I’ve noticed. At least Korea didn’t build their civilization on the backs of the African enslaved.

      • namepen

        Very few people hate Korea, criticizing a country for something that is wrong does not equal hating Koreans.

        The inability to deal with reasoned criticism aside, dont you see that you have displayed quite a lot of hate of other countries/peoples in your post. What does any of the past misdeeds of the countries you mention have to do with the ATL story?

        It seems pretty clear that you are simply engaging in bare faced whataboutery. Discrimintarory working practices in Korea are apparently ok with you because of the 18th century triangle trade.

    • d-_-b

      Canada? Isn’t that like Justin Bieber’s country? LOL

    • sheila m

      yeah the canucks have a history alright. are you forgetting the indigenous people of canada were slaughtered by europeans? died from diseases euro people brought with them to canada? the genocide, and racism that native tribes suffered from the europeans? there’s much racism in canada, even today. not every canadian whites or asians like blacks in general. blacks are not well liked around the world for many reasons. check out craigslist in the rant&rave section of canada, and you will see what the canadian people post in that forum about other racial/ethnic groups living in canada.

  • chucky3176

    labor violations for sure, and those responsible should pay up.

    But why do they even call this “slavery”?

    Despite what KCdude says, Compared to most countries in Asia, South Korea is still the best country for manual migrant workers, in terms of pay and conditions. This is despite all the massive dosage of negative press Korean media have heaped upon the guilt laden Korean public.

    http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/news/indonesian-migrant-workers-best-south-korea/

    • Sillian

      ‘First world’ standards are applied to South Korea.

      • chucky3176

        $1500 to $2500 a month salaries, free medical coverages at expense of Korean tax payers, free housing, free meals, free air tickets, and all living expenses paid by courtesy of Korean employers, low taxes, even free childcare and free language classes in some neighbourhoods. In terms of pay and benefits, migrant workers now get almost the same average pay as what Koreans get, if you count all the stuff migrant workers get that native Koreans don’t get. They even almost match the pay scale of English teachers from the West. Granted, migrant workers do need to work much harder in tougher working conditions.

        But remember, most of them are unskilled manual minimum wage type workers, not skilled workers. And Korea is importing them into the country in masses, depressing Korean wages. The real Korean wages haven’t gone up since the mid-2000’s. The country should be trying to attract skilled workers instead, to bring real skills and real value to move up the value ladder.

        So what’s so not “First World”?

        What’s not first world is that the EPS system prevents these workers from setting down roots in the country because they must leave the country after 2 or 3 years. It takes 5 years of continuous stay in country to apply for Korean permanent residency. Workers also can’t invite their families to stay while they work. But is that what Korea really want, massive unskilled labor immigration from South and South East Asia? I’m sure that’s going to go down so well.

        Does Korea really want more cleaners, waiters, factory workers, and nannies, and import massive numbers of untrained workers to form a new underclass?

        • takasar1

          Yes. No immigration=population decline

    • harvz

      When looking at slavery you must keep in mind that the model is completely different than it was 200 years ago.

      Just like those migrant workers in Saudi who are in deplorable living conditions (and in their case, can’t just leave because one requires an exit visa to leave saudi if you entered on a work visa)

      • Chucky3176

        If they were forced to stay and worked to death, then yes I agree that you can use that term. But I see nowhere in that news report that the Africans were held against their will via their passports being taken away from them nor do I see where they were subjected to force and abuse.

        • harvz

          http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/623584.html

          After four of their Burkinabe colleagues took off and went underground, unable to stand the conditions, the remaining performers had their passports confiscated. “What about our rights?” they protested. They were told it was pointless to complain.

          • Chucky3176

            Then they were indeed slaves, and their employers should be charged for violations.

        • Mighty曹

          Meanwhile in Israel, African immigrants are demanding, repeat ‘demanding’, asylum, right to work, and better treatment. Compared to the artists at this museum I really don’t think they should have any say.

          • harvz

            But aren’t these African jews? Israel was set up to be a country for Jews, but over the past decade they’ve been xenophobic against non-white jews.

            Anyways. Cry more, Israel. Forgive me if I don’t shed a tear over the plight of people, mostly Germans, Polish, Russians, and Lithuanians, who used European guilt to settle in someone else’s land, drive out the local population, and implement an apartheid government.

            /rant over. I don’t have a problem with Jews, but I do despise zionism.

          • Mighty曹

            Just African migrants (not even sure if they’re religious).
            http://www.sfgate.com/world/article/African-migrants-demand-better-treatment-in-Israel-5239104.php

            Zionism is now the biggest hypocrisy in the way they treat Palestinians in Israel.

          • anonkim

            Who the fuck are those ugly negro illegal immigrants think they are? always demanding right to this or that in any other white or asian countries they go??? blacks (negroids) are known the world over for poverty, crime, rapes, hostility, violent behaviors, gang banging, always whining, bitching and complaints, nobody wants them. many countries are having problems with blacks, especially europe, u.k., u.s. many blacks are in prison, or on welfare, live in ghettos, etc. the few wealthy blacks don’t even help out their own people either. if they want to do something the blacks should fight for their freedom in their own countries in africa, why sneak into foreign lands? why should other foreign nations take them in? fuck em all!

      • Mighty曹

        It’s true that the law there makes it difficult for the workers to simply pack up and leave. Some employers seem to take advantage of that. There are numerous horror stories about mistreatment of migrant workers by their Saudi bosses that include beatings and rapes. Imagine the number of unreported instances.

    • Rutim

      You’re forgetting that there are still people being kidnapped in South Korea and made to work for some food on remote islands or made prostitutes.

  • commander

    The museum’s chair is reportedly Hong moon-jong, secretary general of the ruling Saenuri party, who has stired up a controvery with his comment about “President Park Geun hye wristwatch.”

    After watches were given out to the ruling party lawmakers, and heads of party chapters, he said in a meeting with chiefs of party chapters that they need to take advantage of the watches for upcoming June 4th local election.

    His comment was picked up by the opposition party accusing the Blume House of violating election law.

    This political offensive placed him in unsolicited media sportlight.

    Now, in the revelation of dire conditions of empolyment for African artists, Mr. Hong once again stands in the media’s limelight.

    Mr. Hong is reported to have signed his signature on the employment contract with suffering African artists for the museum.

    But he denies any knowledge of this mistreatment, and avoids the repoters in pursuit of an interview with Mr. Hong–an act that may be a testament to what the truth is.

  • nqk123

    past, present, future. exploitation will never stop. that is the reality of life

  • Stefan Xu

    Let’s face it the hard reality; Asians don’t like black people.

    • commander

      That Asians don’t like Africans doesnt justify labor exploitation of them.

    • Doge Wallace

      …and white people love them?

    • Rayna

      okay, you need to stop projecting your racism onto people

    • linette lee

      I am Asian and some of my favorite friends are black.

      • YourSupremeCommander

        “I am Asian” LOL, no shit. And I thought you were Spanish.

    • mei mei

      im Asian and i think Black people are so cool and they’re very confident but not in arrogant way. You’re wrong Stefan, we dont hate Black people, it’s just they’re still new and different to many Asians (esp in Asia)

      • Christopher

        First you should differenciate Africans from Black Americans, these are two completely different people, they have common roots but today their culture, habits, mindset are completely differents. Africans are usually very friendly people, they are open to other cultures and do not judge people based on their race, they are hard working people who want to succeed in life and I personally have big respect for the Africans I know. Many Afro-Americans however are the most hate-filed people in the world, they are incredibly arrogant and look down on anyone who is not Afro-American (even Africans), they stick with their own kind and convinced themselves that every women are sex-addicts who want them and only them (not white men, not asian men), they usually do the absolute minimum amount of work and think that all White people have an eternal debt toward them because of slavery.

        • mei mei

          so you’re mad because some Black Anerican lady didnt wanna date with you?. nothing wrong with stick with their own people Christopher. By the way why would you wanna join the group that dont like you .

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            Hey Mei Mei you’re pretty cool too,just like most Asians I know….Christopher and his ilk who try to project their racist views about Blacks to other people are inbreds

        • Yaminah Jamison

          ….um wow that’s how I am? So you met every black person throughout this planet and not only concluded that there’s only “two groups” (forget the ones living in other countries because it’s only Africa and the US) but can make the most hateful racist ignorant comments based on what? Most likely having a bad experience with the the few you encountered in life conpared to the vast majority that exist.

          Key word: Africans YOU know. I know, civil wars and mass rapes and genocides don’t exist in predominately black African countries. Guess those are the ones you don’t know. As well as the Black Americans you still haven’t encountered that you most likely won’t if you continue to have that kinda attitude.

      • White Power

        go get a kid from a nigger then u nigger lover

        hope u like raising a kid on your own cus ur nigger father will probably abandon you after you have your kid

        • mei mei

          at least. he probably better than you whites

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    ‘The museum director is the secretary general of the Saenuri Party!’

    At this point does it really matter who is in charge? All that matters is how long till they are removed for incompetence?

    • ultimategore

      hello khan.

  • NSA

    What difference do these koreans have with the imperial japanese army.
    Korea needs to stop blaming others for being evil when it celebrates the vietnam victory despite protests from vietnam to stop.

    • Doge Wallace

      “Korea needs to stop blaming others for being evil when it celebrates the vietnam victory despite protests from vietnam to stop.”

      What are you talking about? Korea celebrating Vietnam’s victory? Vietnam doesn’t want Korea to celebrate Vietnam’s victory? Or Vietnam doesn’t want Korea celebrating 50 years since being in the war, which by the way, most Koreans agree with?

    • Guest

      wow talk about making comparisons out of your ass

    • Paulistano

      Please, try better, I know you are better than this. Raping a girl 100 times in a day is very different to exploit people with low income. Both are bad, but, please, stop trolling.

      • NSA

        u guys are all brainwashed by Korea’s mass media.
        Korea is not a good country. Especially south korea.
        They claim that the chinese dragonboat festival is theirs. What liars.

        • Sillian

          Are you poorly impersonating an ignorant fenqing?

        • Sick of Chinese

          Who wants your stupid Chinese dragonboat festival? China is a country of lies and propagandas.

          • YourSupremeCommander

            NK can take SK in two days if it wasn’t for nosy USA.

        • Mike

          You must be chinese. Go home you filth.

  • NickQ

    I’m a gweilo who’s been around Asia and this is what I think.

    At least this made the story in Korea and something is being done about it, which is a testimonial to how far the standards for human rights have come in South Korea. At least they care and admit their wrongs.

    Where as in most of Asia, it’s see no evil and speak no evil. For instance, this is how the Chinese treat their black workers. Most of Asia have a long long way to go.

    http://observers.france24.com/content/20120822-chinafrica-african-observers-share-experiences-working-chinese-companies-china-business-togo-cameroon-senegal

  • NSA

    Fuck South Korea

    • have a nice day!

      Why did it fuck you first? Korean GF dump your ass? Job you wanted was given to Korean? got bullied by a Korean? maybe all of the above? your lovely posts makes me wonder… LOL

  • kraken

    hah, west and korea seems to have negros from a different planet. In communist russia we have some nergro as tall as vietnamese and working low quality jobs. You shouldnt hire tall negros. small negro(nigerian)=no problem

    • Nana
    • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

      Hey comrade kraken….You been drinkin to much vodka I think…better quit talking about the negros before Putin has you executed

      • sheila m

        no putin will not do that. russians are not fond of blacks either. get real.

        • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

          You’re not drunk…but you are on drugs….you get real

          • sheila m

            no not on drugs. perhaps you are? just stating facts here.

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            Drug free all my life…you’re stating opinions

    • sheila m

      Lmao!! looks like many first world countries are importing brown people to do crap work, easy jobs but dirtier. nobody even in korea wants to do cheap low wage dangerous labor. same problem everywhere, america included, different countries.

  • bultak23

    Koreans can travel around the world and overcome the physical barriers of the oceans by ships and planes, but they can’t overcome the racism that is in their own souls.

  • The John

    I find it odd that so many people are shocked. Koreans have always hated black people. (Except for a few of the younger generation)

    • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

      Koreans have not always hated Black people…which shows how much you know…not much at all.

      • The John

        Talk to black people who have gone to Korea to get jobs… Then, give me your reply. Almost all of my black friends have told me that they have experienced heavy discrimination in Korea… (younger generation somewhat excluded)

        • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

          No need for me to do that seeing as I’ve lived and worked there myself, I’m Black…. I don’t deny there’s racist but saying “Always hated” isn’t quite accurate. Everyones experiences are different

          • The John

            Blacks are not looked upon positively in Korea. I have had many Korean friends tell me the same thing too. I was generalizing before, the truth is… A korean family would not be too happy seeing a black man marrying their daughter. On korean web forums, most koreans say they would NEVER hook up with a black man. The old generation out right descriminates against blacks. If you don’t believe me, ask your korean friends. Drunken Tiger formed in response to Ice Cube’s “Black Korea.” Which was a song against koreans. Not only this, but a few other incidents and for a long time a lot of Koreans weren’t feelin the whole black thing. For the most part, they still don’t. Many koreans have told me so… But, the ones they really don’t like are the japs. Obviously, my original statement is virtually impossible considering “always” would be several thousand years… I meant to say that there has been a negative stigma against blacks in Korea for a very long tme. So, this article is not surprising. I am not saying this is true for everyone. The younger generation is very different. Now the reason, why I say the younger generation is different is because they are… Most of them are a lot more open minded.

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            I detect no malice in your statements and respect your opinion. As I stated I have lived there and have many Korean friends…I’ve dated them as well, and a few wanted to marry me with or without their parents consent or blessing. There are racist Koreans, I don’t deny that…but everyone’s experiences are different, I just don’t give those racist the time or day. I didn’t let the ignorant ones affect my overall view of the whole race, I could care less what they think or how they feel about myself and Blacks in general except when it comes to stuff like in this article…Koreans obviously don’t hate Blacks enough to let them come and work in their country….wether its to do business or in this case exploit them

          • The John

            Hey, both of you are absolutely 100% right. I couldn’t agree more.

          • Mighty曹

            “everyone’s experiences are different”. Very true. One perfect example was when I had a flat tire on a rainy day and I didn’t have a working jack to raise the car to change tires. I had pulled over to the side of the road and was flagging down passing cars. An hour later, at least 12-15 cars had passed before one finally stopped to offer assistance. This motorist was unlike the previous drivers who were mostly whites and Asians. This one was the first black that came my way. He let me use his jack and was even going to help me but I declined. I started to work hurriedly as I din’t want to keep him waiting. He told me to ‘take your time. Don’t rush…’. I offered him some money for the trouble but he said, “Don’t worry about it, Bro. Glad I could help.”

            I will always remember that rainy day.

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            That’s a cool story bro. Blacks may get a bad rep but when it comes down to helping someone in need they will, its about the persons heart

          • Mighty曹

            It’s one experience that had a profound effect on me. It’s good enough to be a case study for a Sociology class. I used to have the same narrow minded thinking in a group dynamic. Someone say something and everyone agrees or disagrees. Personal experiences really change a person.

            Hey Bro, another thing I always keep in mind is, “Our skin colors may be different but we all bleed the same red”.

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            Truer words have never been spoken…Are you bi-racial by any chance?

          • Mighty曹

            Thanks! I’m Chinese raised and living in the States.

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            That’s cool, I seen a couple of your post and youre quite funny. Which state you from, Jersey here…not by choice lol

          • Mighty曹

            I try to be humorous. hahaha… I’m in Cali. SF.
            Don’t like the east coast? Come out west. :D

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            Well its funny cause I was born in Washington state but both my parents were Army so we moved to North Carolina, then Florida, and then I ended up here in Jersey…I liked NC and Florida, I just hate the snow up here lol, You ever been to China, I lived there a few years

          • Mighty曹

            I’m glad you didn’t grow up in Washington otherwise you’ll be a Seahawks fan and I won’t be able to be friends with you.

            I’ve been to different parts of China as I have relatives in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, and HK (where I’m originally from). Where did you live? That’s so cool!

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            Yeah I was born in Tacoma LoL…I lived in the coastal city of Dalian mostly but been all up the northeast including Beijing, Anshan, Tianjin, Shenyang, I couldn’t mess with Harbin its TOO damn cold lol…Shanghai Shenzhen, and I been to Hong Kong twice, visited there last summer, you can check all my pics out on facebook I took over the years there

          • Mighty曹

            Awesome! You’ve been to more places than I have. Can you speak some Putong Hua? You definitely should see HK during Christmas season. There’s nothing like it on this planet. (Do a search under your name in FB?)

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            Yeah do a search under my name Rosemon Calvin Pilot and you’ll see me. I speak a good amount of Putong Hua. Hong Kong Christmas season seems tempting to check out. Lots of bright lights!

          • Mighty曹

            You probably speak better and more than I do. LOL!
            You should be proud, my man. Yes, make plans to visit HK this Christmas.

          • Yaminah Jamison

            ……what’s wrong with being in Jersey?

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            Nothing wrong with Jersey within itself….it just snows too much here sometimes lol

          • Yaminah Jamison

            Hmmmm only this year lol. Last year wasn’t that bad. Just Sandy.

          • Mighty曹

            hahaha…. Jersey girl is getting defensive. :D

          • Yaminah Jamison

            Aw this makes me really happy to read.

          • Mighty曹

            Hey Jersey gurl, how ya been? it’s been a while!

          • Yaminah Jamison

            Cold and tired of this snow. How are you?

          • Mighty曹

            I’m good! It’s time for you to move. Come out west.

          • Yaminah Jamison

            I’m too poor and no ambitions.

          • Mighty曹

            Boooo….

          • mr.lee

            a few koreans wanted to marry you? that’s gross, black and asian mixes are hideous.

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            No lee you’re wrong….inbreeding is gross yet that didn’t stop your parents from spawning you now did it

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            Inbreeding is gross but that didn’t keep your parents from spawning you now did it

          • anony

            you’re so full of it.

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            Speak for yourself….you’re full of it

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            No I’m not…you are

          • Sheila M.

            spoken like a true phony cretin. you’re a fraudster, a low life braggart.

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            LMAO you’re STILL trying to desperately troll….just like all the other faceless inbred trolls who claim x y and z about Black people….I like how you assume to know every detail of my life and all to call me a fraudster lowlife braggart…the DNA pool has been contaminated beyond repair since you were born…please don’t procreate

          • mr.kim

            the DNA pool of simian (n) i gs is contaminated beyond repair since you were born, your ugly hooker she ape mother should have asked her trick to cum in her mouth or ass.

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            LMAO too funny…the extent of your vocabulary….do the world a favor and hold your breath for as long as you can

          • mr.kim

            you should try that yourself inbred chit skinned groid. you’re less than scum.

          • chucky3176

            You’re arguing with a black person with direct experience. I’m gussing you’re white As the poster says, it’s not black and white, like you’re trying to make it out to be. Like the Rosemon says, I know plenty of Koreans who don’t hate blacks and admire the black culture, and even want to be black (which I think is kind of funny and stupid, but you know what I mean). But that’s just one personal opinion, so it doesn’t mean anything, just like your own personal anecdotes.

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            Extra thumbs up Chucky -_^

    • Guy Forget

      Yes but you, like so many other dull minds, are not seeing the CLEAR POINT HERE. These black people were not FORCED or ENSLAVED on boats to come to Korea and work. They came here by CHOICE and their on VOLITION, probably even DESIRE, to come to Korea. So when they encountered racism or some discomforts in Korean society, well guess what, BOO F*CKIN HOO! Go back home and enjoy life in Africa or wherever. There’s no crying racism in this case. If Korea had captured africans and forced them into samsung slavery camps, then YES, I’D BE AGAINST IT and STAND UP AGAINST RACISM. But this IS NOT RACISM. These migrant workers and africans all come here getting WELL PAID off Korea’s well to do economy thanks to the hard work and sacrifice koreans have made to get here. Maybe instead of abandoning their countries, and bashing Korea while making 10x more money here once converted back to their currency, they should go back home, roll up their sleeves and work their asses of like Koreans did to build their country into a developed nation and not spend so much time FREE LOADING and PIGGY BACKING nations like KOREA and then bash them as racists for not giving into all their demands. These people do not deserve anti-racism campaigns. Korea did not force them. It’s their OWN CHOICE. Love Korea or LEAVE IT. Simple as that. Go take your racism card somewhere else.

      • Guy Forget

        I want to teach you something: There are 4 kinds of people in this world: 1) The righteous poor (those who worked hard and honest, but got screwed), 2) The unrighteous poor (those who are lazy asses, emigrate to another country to free load and piggy back off their welfare and society, then cry racism and bash the country that accepted them and helped them), 3) the righteous rich (those who worked hard, honest, sacrificed and earned everything they got) and 4) the unrighteous rich (those who cheated or scammed or used some shady methods to climb over people and get rich).

        Korea was as poor as Kenya 60 years ago. Look it up.

        • The John

          How do you know these guys are the unrighteous poor? Have you ever been poor before? Please tell me how people piggy back off of society and live a rich and happy life sir. I’m very sure those people in foxconn also signed up by choice…

      • The John

        Next time i’m in China. I will go to Samsung’s slave production plant and say. You guys are getting paid! Shut up and like it! If you don’t like it, go back to your villaige and build it up into a giant mecca like WE did.

  • Guy Forget

    Or those africans can freely go back home if they don’t like Korea??? If you don’t like the job, just leave and go home??? What’s the big f**kin deal?

    • Sheila M.

      exactly, i agree.

      • Guy Forget

        and this goes for all english teachers in korea too, not just migrant workers. I don’t understand why ppl get offered jobs in Korea when they couldn’t get a job back home, then when they are here, they b*tch and whine about Korea and their flaws and start bashing them raining down judgments when the country u probably came from is 20x worse than Korea. Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to stay here. If u dont like the job, ur boss, korean culture, or whatever, pls just pack ur bags and go on back home, simple as that. Why all these ‘workers’, teachers, migrant workers who aren’t even korean citizens start protesting and trying to change a country that is not even theres, is ridiculous. If you were a citizen here and this was your country, then I can understand, but if you’re here for work becuz the money here is better (exchange rate as is for most migrant workers) and the there were no jobs at home (for english teachers), then just do your job and be grateful. If something bothers you about korea and ur getting sick and tired of it, then just try your luck back home. I could never understand why so many teachers and migrant workers CAN’T UNDERSTAND this simple concept. It’s not forced slave labor people!!!! I hate it when ANYONE tries to compare korea and koreans to black slavery. That’s just cheap and low. They’re just trying to get a free pass by riding on the coat tails of real tragedy that occurred HALF A GLOBE AWAY, and over half a century ago! Geezuz, Korea was as poor and impoverished as KENYA 60 years ago! So plz don’t use the “slavery” race card on koreans to get what you want. Koreans worked their asses of to get to where they are today WITHOUT THE COMFORTS of having equal rights, civil liberties, and international humanitarian workers laws and rights. They studied and worked 12 hours a day, bled, sweat, toiled, sacrificed everything, and never once whined and complained to the international community of racism or discrimination. They just worked hard and dug themselves out of that hole. Maybe that’s a lesson that today’s migrant workers and teachers should LEARN FROM!

        • Guy Forget

          In America, many black people agree now that if the black community could put as much energy and effort into working hard as they do in to constantly crying racism and riding the race card, they might actually be able to achieve something great and get themselves out of the hole. It’s funny how asians in America who are also discriminated against seem to have so much success and yet u barely ever see them rant and rage on about racism and unfair treatment. No million man marches for asians, nope. They’d rather spend that energy and time studying and working hard for themselves. The best way to get REVENGE is to succeed. Africans need to adopt this philosophy and not spend so much time on “SLAVERY this and SLAVERY that”. Yeah, we know all about it, but none of us were alive in those times. You’re preaching to the converted.

          • Sheila M.

            I agree guy, but in liberal left wing america if you speak this way, you will be labeled racist and a bigot. you can’t even speak your mind today in u.s. without being accused of being a racist. you would also be surprised that many blacks don’t even like asians. i’m not saying all black people, but many of those blacks dislike asians. remember the race riots in the 90’s in california, new york city? it was crazy.

          • Guy Forget

            You’re totally right. If anyone tries to come out publicly to say stuff like this they would label me as racist and the way they have the system set up, once you’re labelled that way, ur credibility goes down the drain and nobody will listen anymore. That’s why it’s so damn dangerous how they set up the hate speech law and anti-racism campaigns. I’m all for treating people well and not with prejudice, but it’s horrible how they have set up the system so that if we don’t agree with them, we’re automatically racists. You’re one smart person….glad u also see and realize the bigger problem here. Cheers

          • tina

            i agree with sheila, it’s ridiculous out here in america how those libs and the u.s. media tries to force their agenda on all of us. i thought about what you mentioned with the hate speech laws, it is true, for some strange reason you can not truly speak about how you feel and or conditions relating to jobs, welfare, crime, dating, etc. if your views oppose theirs, the other group, it becomes a problem. it’s sick. i had a problem with someone a year ago with this woman who was into dating black males. she was puerto rican and liked hangin around blacks. she tried to set me up with some black guy, i told her that i’m not interested, and i’m not attracted to black men. i was honest with her, she was my co-worker. she called me racist for not wanting to date her friend. i told her to go fuck herself. i also let her know that not every person (man or woman) will be attracted to someone of another race or ethnic group. it’s not realistic. yes i know some people have a racial fetish for asians, or blacks, whites. and some people don’t care about where the other person comes from. but you would be surprised a lot of people also prefer to date/marry someone of their own racial group. it’s natural and common. i don’t like being forced to date or do something because of some stupid trend that ‘others’ are doing it, or because it’s all over the television that constantly shows interracial couples in movies, commercials, etc. i don’t care what other people do or who they date, but dating blacks is not for me. freedom of speech and freedom of choice goes both ways, it’s not a one way street. it’s a double edged sword. this is a problem with the u.s. hate crime laws, it’s hypocritical.

          • Sheila M.

            Also slavery has been going for a long time in this world among many different cultures throughout centuries, it is not an american invention. slavery continues today in africa, currently 20 million are enslaved in africa, middle east, and other parts of the world, yes this is fact. but you’re right about the race card, it’s so worn out and tacky, it’s embarrassing for blacks in general. people are getting tired of the ol race card game. it doesn’t work anymore.

          • kloe

            Woow i do not know where you guys get your undocumented unimperical evidence from. Let me tell you i live in the UK and majority of the blacks here are either Africans or Caribbean and they do very well for themselves and go to top university. I go to OXFORD do you know how many Africans that are there. For you to generalise i find it tacky there are black french and black germans. Stop the ignorance. And then you say 20 million people are still slaves after asking my African friends they all said there isnt. By the way incase you did not know they are 1.1 billion people in Africa as it is the 2nd largest continient with 53 countries.

  • Sheila M.

    I find it strange that when ever an article about negro blacks appear on this site, some supposed black person comes out of no where like magic and posts and brags about how he/she had relationships with koreans and or that said korean persons ask the black person to marry them. i wonder how much are the black trolls are getting paid to post their rubbish here? what agenda is behind this? and calling other posters here inbred because some people oppose the black poster’s view only discredits his or her post and also reveals that he or she is a fraud.

    • Yaminah Jamison

      I find it strange that you accuse others of being trolls yet… you’re portraying yourself as one.

      • Sheila M.

        you’re missing the point. this is common behavior when ever topics about negros appear on this forum. are you one? i must have hit a nerve, lol! Fail!

        • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

          The only failure I see here is you…pretty lonely in that trailer of yours isn’t it?

          • tina

            why do you keep responding to someone who has a different view of yours? blacks are not compatible in many asian cultures. many koreans don’t want negros in their country, let alone date or marry them, which by the way is looked down upon in korea and in other asian cultures.

          • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

            LoL you’re probably the same poster sheilia….Everyone has a right to their OPINION….we don’t have to agree, ….in case you hadn’t noticed, an earlier poster John had an opinion that differed from mine, but he didn’t troll and we respectfully agreed to disagree….then Sheila comes along and post her garbage calling me a liar as if she knows about my life experiences, so yeah I called her out on her B.S…I also disagree with you as well….you’re entitled to your OPINION just as I’m entitled to mine

          • Sheila

            LMAO! You wish, what a cretin.

      • Sillian

        Flag the comments.

      • Rosemon Calvin Pilot

        Some people have no life Yaminah….Sheila’s evident of that

  • ultimategore

    oh im asian i think blacks awesome comment wave began
    such as oh im korean my best friend is black

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