Conservatives: “Waste of Taxes” to Salvage Sewol Ferry

From YTN:

Conservative groups pronounce salvaging of MV Sewol “waste of taxes”

south korea conservative sewol ferry protest waste taxes

Representatives of conservative groups have expressed their discontent with the salvaging of the MV Sewol, claiming that the operation will be dangerous and deplete astronomical levels of taxes.

Leaders of groups such as the Young’s Liberty Union hosted a press conference in front of the Seoul Government Complex where they asserted that the MV Sewol recovery opposes national interest.

The groups claimed that the hull recovery process would waste as much as 200 billion won (approximately 183 million US dollars) of taxpayer’s money and cause more deaths due to the fast current at the site of the incident.

They also advised not to misinterpret President Park Geun-hye’s promise to positively consider the hull salvaging, calling it an attempt to make the recovery appear like it had already reached consensus in the media and legislative bodies.

Comments from Daum:

불루핀님

In my eyes that looks like nonsense, not conservatism!

아침의 나라님

You bastards don’t even have to right to use the word ‘conservatism’

sun님

What about all the taxes President Lee Myeong-bak plowed through in the name of river restoration, resource diplomacy, and the defense industry?

나승열님

The support funds that go to you guys are the real waste of taxes!

앵벌이상파님

You assholes~ Tons of money was wasted on resource diplomacy! Go apeshit at Myeong-bak’s front door holding pickets instead.

Beat님

Don’t associate conservatism with this kind of toxic garbage.

apple님

Check yourselves into a mental ward or something

루이님

It’s not a waste of taxes since the government has raked in a lot with the cigarette tax hike. Plus, before you consider whether it would be a waste of taxes, you sick fucks should know it’s a duty required of the state. You wouldn’t contribute even one extra penny towards it anyway, would you?

paula cho님

Ah, what am I supposed to do about South Korea~ there are reasons why this country is a mess. They always assert the economic argument prioritizing the goose that lays golden eggs… They let the moronic older generation wear official armbands and act like their mouthpieces. They formed all kinds of conservative groups who speak up for the government and their divine affiliated groups. Now some futile joke-like conservative group reps are opposing the Sewol salvaging as waste of taxes. I’m at a loss for words. What’s the value of conservatism? Isn’t it a limitless responsibility towards our community? You trash who pretend to be conservative, throw yourself in the dumpster!

kiwi천사님

What about the money paid for you guys’ ramen?

happy님

I’m having trouble understanding why the media is calling them a conservative group

백록담지기님

Would you guys be saying this if it was your family buried at sea?

시간여행님

You conservative groups, if you dropped dead your burial would be a waste of money and damage to the environment. Burying trash like you would rot the ground, wouldn’t it you assholes.

cura animarum님

I hope such a tragedy befalls your own grandkids…I’m curious what taxpayers would have to say then.

hyoung182님

And the tax money you guys use is just fine?

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  • redgirls

    How utterly bereft of humanity.

  • terriblemovie

    Yoo Byung Euns ultra corrupt family is worth over a billion USD. Make his entire family pay out of their pockets to fund this recovery operation.

    • redwhitedude

      That’s a good idea.

  • vonskippy

    Huge waste of money – is there no common sense left in the world?

  • bigmamat

    I understand the families have wanted this for awhile, but I have to agree. The operation to raise the ship is expensive and perhaps dangerous. From what I understand the Sewol families are mostly working class folks. For that kind of money the government could erect a beautiful memorial at the site or a park and start a scholarship fund in the name of the students for low income kids.

    • redwhitedude

      Well the sunken ship could serve as a memorial.

  • takasar1

    of course its a waste of money. you want to waste tens of millions dragging up a ship with ghost crew and passengers? simply so you can ‘feel better’? ‘proper burial’? at the end of the day, we have opportunity cost galore with regards to this scenario. that money can be used to improve and save the lives of the living, not simply be one expensive ode to the deceased. society should move forward. not back.

    if they want to fund it, then so be it.

  • wrle

    Most of these comments from daum make no sense or have any logic to them. 183 million US dollars.. When all this money could go towards improving national safety standards to prevent or minimize casualties from future disasters, what is the use of dragging up a shipwreck with nothing inside? Just to look at it? These sewolho left wingers are logically impaired.

  • MeiDaxia

    The ship should have been raised more than a year ago. That it has lain there for so long because the families couldn’t agree to raise it before is ridiculous. “Raise the ship!” “Not til all the bodies are recovered! My son/daughter’s corpse could be washed away by the water leaving the ship!” and now it’s “Raise the ship as a memorial/etc” “It costs too much money!”

  • commander

    As far as I know, the major demands victims families have made are clear: Thorough investigation, bolstered by the inclusion of panelists, recommended by them, in the investigative committee; Subsequent punishment, according to law, of those that inquiries will find responsible for the sinking of the Sewol.

    But, so far the ship captain and the crew members who disembarked first on rescue ships after ordering passengers to stay indoors in an announcement have been tried and get sentences.

    The Sewol ship’s de facto owner Yoo Byung-un was found dead last year, making it hard for law enforcement officials to find the culprit to bring to the court.

    Having said that, the bungled rescue attempts by government agencies in initial stages after the Sewol sunk has not been thoroughly scrutinized. The Park Geun-hye administration dissolved coastal guards in an apparent bid to hold accountable for the swift rescue failure.

    However, there has been no official investigation as sincere as victims families.

    The lifting of the sunken Sewol’s hull is a marginal ly interesting issue for victim families.

    • Xman2014

      “Having said that, the bungled rescue attempts by government agencies in initial stages after the Sewol sunk has not been thoroughly scrutinized.”

      Hard to do, when some of the families are still refusing to let the investigation board to take off, arguing over the personnel.

      • commander

        Their opposing rationale needs attention. Their argument is that to investigate possible misconduct on the part of government agencies tasked with search and rescue operations, it is necessary to appoint neutral figures, unswayed by the government pressure, to take charge of investigation and to grant them, if necessary, prosecutorial authority. They believe that without these measures, the investigation will not get to the bottom.

        Although it is debatable to grant investigative and indictment powers to a committe of investigators outside the prosecution, for those who are fed up with mismanagement of state affairs–most notably the delayed investigation into overseas resouces investment made during the Lee Myung-bak administration involving several trillion won in wasted tax payers’ money, the demands from victim families are not completely without rationale.

        • Xman2014

          Only about 70 out of the about 200 surviving families oppose the investigative team the last time I heard, few months back. The majority want this investigation to start off, and majority have accepted the government offer for compensation. The opposition party in the parliament also endorsed the investigation team. So why are the minority of disgruntled allowed to take hostage the entire issue? You cannot get 100% agreement on everything, let’s move on, and finish off this investigation.

          • commander

            I wonder whether you could say so easily if you have a daughter or a son in high school and she or he was drowned to death aboard the sunken vessel, caused by grave errors which go uninvestigated and punished.

            I don’t know whether the majority of victims families accepted proposed reparation from the government, but even if they did so, the acceptance would not come out of their recognition that the government has done its utmost, but from exhaustion due to the prolonged standoff and resignation that they can’t help but to accept the grim reality.

            You can’t get a 100% understanding of how they feel if you were not in their place. Let’s agree to disagree. Period.

          • Xman2014

            Hey, if I was them, I would want to get this investigation started off as soon as possible, it’s been like what? Over a year now? And I would want to move on with my life, while I wait for the results of the investigation so that it won’t happen again. What’s the point of holding this up for what? Just because I don’t like the two or three people out of a dozen who will be serving as checks and balances against each other? Just because a few investigators are from the government isn’t going to cancel out what the other investigators hired by the family and opposition government are going to come out with. We need a bi-partisan team so that not one side can say it wasn’t a fair investigation. But if they want to stack the team with their own biased hand picked team only, it ain’t gonna happen. Why can’t Koreans compromise and work together as one team?

          • commander

            One of reasons the victim families refuse to compromise is a profound distrust in the government because they suspect that government-initiated probe will not dig deep enough to leave all stones turned. They just can’t let their deceased children go away without identifying what was the culprit and bringing to justice those responsilbe in a due way.

          • Xman2014

            Two or three of them from various government divisions do not make the entire team. Just because some of them are government does not mean the investigation will not be fair because there are others in the same team who are not part of the government and who will provide a balance report. They need the team made up from all walks of life, including the government. Once again, most of the family members, along with the opposition party, have all dropped their demands and are willing to work with this team. It’s the two dozen or so hardcore family members who refuses to give in. They protest on street everyday instead. In Korea, screaming the loudest always gets you something.

          • commander

            The way you say shows you’re not a native South Korean. No wonder you don’t know why pubic distrust is running high for the government.

            And victims families, intransient and amenable, are not the ones to blame for protracted investigation. It’s the duty for the government to convince them of the investigative impartiality. After all they are grieving families who lost loved ones, they wouldn’t change for the whole world. Soothing traumatized minds and regaining the public trust falls on the government’s shoulder.

  • Sid Driver

    For god’s sake… get that boat out of the water and give the people the closure they deserve. As much as they blame the Yoo family everything in Korea is run top down. There has to be some government officials along the way accepting bribes to turn a blind eye or this thing never would have happened in the first place.

    Just the other day I was watching a video about the Sampoong Department Store collapse. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bAggWQXyQk) After that tragedy they cleaned up things pretty fast but with Sewol they are just digging their heels in…

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