Balloons Carry News of Ri Sol-ju’s ‘Porno’ to North Korea

On October 6th, South Korean conservative political groups decided to tell the people of North Korea that Ri Sol-ju, wife of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, had starred in a pornographic film. Seizing on reports from Japan’s Asahi newspaper that members of North Korea’s famous Unhasu Orchestra, in which Ri used to work, had been publicly executed for making a pornographic film, the South Korean groups included similar allegations that Ri herself had been in the videos in packages sent via balloon over the DMZ. North Korean state media condemned the Japanese report, and even defector media groups within South Korea strongly doubted the truth of the story. Online comments were harshly critical of the balloon launch, saying it would only hurt the trust-building diplomatic process and make conflict more likely.

Kim Jong Un and his wife, Ri Sol-ju

Kim Jong Un and his wife, Ri Sol-ju

A photo circulating around the Korean internet, allegedly depicting Ri Sol-ju in a pornographic film.

A photo circulating around the Korean internet, allegedly depicting Ri Sol-ju in a pornographic film.

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Pamphlets to be Sent to the People of North Korea

Ri Sol Ju, the wife of Kim Jong Un, First Chairman of North Korea’s Security Council, has not been seen in public since Japanese media reported that she was involved in a sex scandal. On the morning of October 6th, representatives from Blue Union and citizen’s defense groups met at an observation platform at Yeoncheon in northern Gyeonggi Province to release balloons carrying news of Ri Sol Ju’s sex scandal. The groups hoped that the balloons would scatter packages of pamphlets with descriptions of Ri’s actions into the hands of North Korean citizens.

Comments from Daum:

HiKorea:

I don’t really think this is the best thing to do…

마린보이:

how embarrassing

귀거래사:

If there’s a war, would these guys be doing the fighting? What do they think they’re playing at

talentful:

Where is the honesty here? Our government is trying negotiation and trust building while at the same time these groups, which receive government funds, are spreading these pamphlets? Where is the trust building?

ε‥날づн를달Øŀ‥з:

If there is a war, these guys have to go to the front and fight

ranee1967:

haha what jiral…and where do these groups get the money to pull of stunts like this…

빨간하늘:

Come on, you’ve got to be more sensible, these groups are crazy

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화이트보드:

Looks like these guys got bored with just eating and decided they needed something to do.. senseless bastards.. you’re the worst, go back to the North

폴리티카:

Looks like these guys are praying that war starts [lit. “making ritual sacrifices for”] She’s still a human being, do you think it’s okay to insult Ri Sol Ju like this?

저멀리우주:

shit, great job

신비한:

these warmongering red defector bastards should get their asses back to the North~

쏘키:

Hey idiots, don’t you know that stuff like this just makes relations with the north worse, did you think it would be helpful? But then again, you guys need to keep attacking North Korea and insulting it in order to feel important, so this must be natural for you… Don’t you think this could hurt your precious Lady President’s efforts to build trust with the North? Please just leave it alone, eh? try to think more about what you’re doing

소금장수:

What do you get by doing this? bunch of reactionary conservative morons

진실만보자:

Cut it out.. What do you get from irritating the North? Looking at what you would do if war actually broke out on the peninsula, you must be reds yourself!! And if you’re looking for scandals, you don’t have to go very far.. What exactly did your precious Lady President do with that fake preacher Choi Tae-min??? tsk tsk tsk tsk [Choi is alleged to have fathered a child with Park Geun Hye decades ago]

다미맘:

Just go straight to the North and start fighting. Don’t do this inside our country~ As much as North Korea deserves to be criticized, I don’t think this a good idea. There is no benefit to our country when you do this. Actions like this make me wonder if these guys really want South Korea to prosper.

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  • Joey

    Where’s the video, koreaBANG?

    • Sapphire Jones

      I know, right? Allegations like this are always useless without video.

    • lee_hyung_ju

      While we would love to be the first media outlet to show the video, I suspect from the bad photoshop job on that “photo” that no such video exists

  • Ruaraidh

    Never mind the labour camps, economic incompetence and huge technological gap between North and South Korea, what’ll really get the people of North Korea to turn against their god-king is the rumour that his wife was in a pornographic film…

    Fucking hell.

    • bigmamat

      Only a Korean or an American Republican would think something like this is relevant. Fucking hell is right.

      • David

        What an incredibly rude and ignorant comment.

    • http://syscon.ssu.ac.kr/ Thanh Phú

      Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it

      • Ruaraidh

        Better I suppose for a prince to be feared than loved, better to be loved than hated, and better anything than to be laughed at by the people. Very Machiavellian.

      • bigmamat

        Tried what? Fucking hell? I have it’s called marriage.

  • Mighty曹

    Oh no, another public execution.

  • commander

    The conservative group must have been crazy when they believed the Japanese newspaper’s gossipy report is true, and they decided to send video packages in balloons to North Korea, an irasible country that is notorious for its propensity for making armed provocations and unparalleled pride in its totalitarian police regime.

    In retrospect, North Korea closed down Gaeseong Industrial Complex after South Korean media outlets ridiculed the North by saying that the continued operation of factories at the symbol of inter Korean cooperation reveals Pyongyang had no intention to attack the southern neighbor and the United States with nuclear bombs.

    They said that the North was reliant on the industrial park for financial gain, noting that the complex’s persistent runnning is a barometer of North Korea’s brinkmanship foreign policy.

    To prove that it has never begged South Korea for money, North Korea shuttered down the complex and pulled out its workers from it, leading to months of negotiations over the revival of the complex between two Koreas.

    This episode and the North’s idiosycratically short temper should have taught the South Korean group that a frivolous act could set off a veement backlash from North Korea in a development that would escalate tension on the Korea Peninsula.

    The government should restrict this kind of propaganda action.

    The sexual disparagement of this type against the first lady is unprecedented in diplomatic convention.

    The anti-North Korean sentiment is a matter of the freedom of speech but it should be uttered within the national boundary in a way that does not involve provocation.

    • chucky3176

      These are mostly North Korean defectors, commander.

      I understand exactly why they’re doing this. They know it’s effective.

      From many North Korean defector testimonies, they say they actually looked forward to the South Korean balloons filled with propaganda leaflets and care packages. Even if they dismissed the South Korean leaflets as lies, over time, it was highly effective because it prepared them when they were exposed to the next round of new information from the smuggled South Korean mediums. I applaud them for what they’re doing, and I’m sure most South Koreans other then the few remaining North Korean jongbuk leftists at Daum.net, also support them.

      • commander

        The motivation is understandable when North Korean defectors who fled to democractic South Korea found themselves to have been deceived by Pyongyang”s false propaganda saying that South Korea is impoverished and dominated by cruel US imperialists.

        But that doesn’t justify actions that could strain inter Korean cooperation and make long-anticipated renuions of seaprated families from South and North Korea more difficult.

        The promotional material that lay bare the ins and outs of North Korean regime’s hypocrisy may cushion the shock when North Korean inhabitants find that they are all set up in a period of three generations.

        But I think that North Koreans have slim chance of obtaining materials scattered from the air because those materials are preemtively seized by the authorities in the North, and they could be subject to hard labor or turture even death if they are found to have read, watched “harmful” materials.

        Not only this, the cross border balloon release have the hansome chance of providing North Korea with another pretext of making unpredictable provocations against South Korea.

        In doing so, the Stalinist country could claim that hostile acts are started first by South Korea.

        The huge resentment North Korean defectos felt at the deceptions and brainwashing propaganfa activities made by the North Korean regime is understandable, but anger from duping is one thing, holding national peace and stability hostage is completely different another.

        I think they’d better seek out positive ways to vent pented up infuriation like helping defections in China to South Korea.

        • chucky3176

          “But I think that North Koreans have slim chance of obtaining
          materials scattered from the air”

          Wrong. Definitely wrong. Not according to the NK defectors who got them, despite the punishments if caught. Aparrantly their discipline in the front lines are breaking down, and the authorities are losing some control.

          • commander

            You are right if North korean defectors testify so.

            but I doubt whether creating disillusionment among people in North Korea has any impact on the North Korean regime’s sustainability.

            Rather, those who get their hands on propaganda materials could, if unearthed, face torture and death.

            The provocative propaganda will also fray inter Korean relations.

          • maplesyrup

            who gives a shit? haven’t you learned dealing with North Korea, North Korea always fucks you over. It’s like a fucking leech and it’s playing the world over and over. Guess what, no more. No more restarting nuclear reactors because there will be a bomb crater instead. No more negotiating peace, exploiting Korean peoples emotions, no more establishing hot lines because what’s the point? Definition of insanity is doing something over and over hoping a different outcome. Insanity is an understatement for North Korea. It’s hell on earth and now needs to be wiped off the map.

        • maplesyrup

          who gives a shit North Korea is a fucking warzone of humanity vs government and it has lost. Anyone trying to do business or cut deals with North Korea is okay with what’s going in there. Send all the balloons they want, fuck international relations we are all fucking armchair politicians here anyhow.

          • commander

            If you are not South Korean, it’s ok to say that doing whatever wants. But if your nationality South Korea, a situation takes a dramatic turn.

            Few South Korean would like a wayward North Korea.

            But I think the absense of a major armed conflict on the Korean Peninsula is attributable to what outsiders might call passive and accomodative policy by South Korea toward North Korea.

            The confrontational and provocative propaganda policy willset the stage for the peninsulacto turn into a vortex pf conflict where all neoghboring countries like China and Japan would be drawn to the peninsula, a secenriao that South Korea would least want.

          • commander

            In South Korea where a war with North Korea could take a devastating toll, few South Koreans would agree to permit provocative actionscthat could surely spark counter measures from North Korea.

            Some people being fed up with North Korea’s stream of attack threats, ineffectiveness of UN sactions against Pyongyang is understandable.

            But that should not lead to a conclusion that we needs to go on a brinkmanship course in dealing with North Korea.

            Diplomacy is a time consuming process requiring huge patience and persistent commitmentfor success.

            The vast majority of South Koreans would not agree to allow some conservative groups to provoke North Korea by sending propaganda-containing balloons at risk of a escalated tension between two Koreas.

      • maplesyrup

        would you ever say, pay someone in Korea to send a ballon to north korea with content, message, of your choosing? what would it contain?

        I know I would for sure. I don’t know if mine is gonna reach anyone but I’ll put in lots of Korean ramen noodles (As they are light, imperishable, and excellent source of calories), rapsberry pi (so they can have their own computer).

        My dream would be to shower North Korea with tiny Rapsberry Pi computers with tiny screen and keyboard and mouse that can connect to the internet….but in North Korea this could be challenging. Imagine if a lot of North Koreans had access.

    • David

      Well, I do not think they care whether it is true or not. I also do not think NK needs any reason whatsoever to throw a tantrum like a 5 year old child (as demonstrated for the last 50 years). As far as being unprecedented in diplomatic convention, the short answer is that this is NOT a diplomatic convention (and people have been called much worse then this officially even if it was). The foreign secretary did not call the first lady a porn star, ROK citizens, who have the freedom of speech, did it. Personally I think it is stupid and petty, about the level you would expect from the NKs themselves.

      • commander

        A closer breakdown of North Korea’s seemingly unprrdicable provocative moves in the past shows they have been carefully choreograpged for political gains, including raising stakes in the multilateral nuclear disarmament negotiations.

        In a country where a single misstep in foreign policy could have devastating effects, including an implosion or a regime change by force, comparing North Korea’s sophisticated brinkmanship to a five year old’s throwing up a tantrum obscures the essence of how the two decade nuclear crisis in North Korea should be addressed.

        Second, people are guaranteed the freedom of speech but in reality that freedom is often the source of an international row.

        Consider the worship of senior officials and prominent rightiesr politicians at the Yaskuni Shrine, which those worshippers claim to be a national symbol having nothing to do with militarism during tur WW II.

        That claim dres scathing flaks from South Korea and Beijing, which sees the signs of resurgent militarism in the shrine visits, along with controversial statements that Japan sees nothing wrong in their militaristic past.

        The freedom of expression is made possible within a nation’s boundary, not between the nations which see what is right from different perspectives.

        Sending balloons with propaganda materials is sure to heighten tension on the Korean Peninsula as North Korea sees the move as a political ruse to eat away the foundations of its regime.

        The commentaries on mass media outlets could also turn into a source of inter korean confrontation on the similar grounds.

        Distinction needs to be drawn between domestic and transnational freedom of speech.

        • David

          You sound like you think the Korean peninsula is on the brink of a major reunification that these idiots are ruining. Of course the NKs throw a tantrum every time they want something new. They have walked away from important high level talks because they did not like the size of the meeting table. They do not need provocation to fake being ‘insulted’, they do it whenever they think it will help them. This is not any kind of brilliant diplomatic strategy. They simply play on the desperate hopes of those who want a peaceful re-unification to put pressure on their government. I have been criticizing the semi-appeasement policy of the U.S. and ROK for three decades. In addition, balloons of propaganda are sent over the border all the time (not to mention t.v. and radio signals which are aimed in that direction). As far as freedom of speech goes, I am not going to have a silly conversation about transnational freedom of speech in an age of instant and global communication. Who’s regime do you think is going to change? Again, I think you are simply putting way more importance on this incident then it deserves. So I will simply and respectfully disagree with you. Have a great day.

          • commander

            I agree to diagree with you in terms of assumption on North Korea’s foreogn policy, which I think has consistency in its seemingly wayward recalcitrant moves.

            Anyway, I understand your point. Have a great weekends.

  • Numonly

    Whatever, North Korea will be blamed for everything.

  • PixelPulse

    The only thing this would really do is probably get her killed.

    • jem

      I think that was their intention.

      • PixelPulse

        That makes it even worse.

    • firebert5

      And anyone who comes across this “propaganda.”
      Village guard: “You, random farmer, what is that you have there?”
      Random illiterate farmer: “I don’t know. It just fell out of the sky.”
      Village guard: “A likely story! To the labor camps with you!”

    • Joey

      That’s really fucking unlikely considering she’s kind of the wife of the Dear Glorious Leader.

    • Howard Duck2

      Kim would never kill anyone. He has guards for that.

  • asian don draper

    yeah.. showing the world that your wife stared in a porno.. who wouldnt be reasonable?

  • Brett

    What a shitty move by these conservatives. So they know that members of the orchestra were killed by the regime and they then send videos and pictures of more people (they think should be executed)?

    Also, videos and pictures can be deceiving. I had a classmate from high school, Antonella Barba, she was on American Idol about 5 years ago. There were pornographic pictures floating around, which she appeared to be in, and was almost kicked off the show. After a few days of many people scrutinizing the photos, they realized it wasn’t her.

    These SK’s are going to get people killed, and I can’t find one good reason why.

    • chucky3176

      The members of the North Korean orchestra were killed to protect Ri Seol Ju who is the wife of Kim Jung Eun. The only one who’s in danger is Ri, and Kim isn’t going to kill his wife too, when he has killed an entire orchestra for her. The relations with North Korea can’t get any worse, nor will it ever get better. For those who think the relations will get better are living in the fantasy land. Nothing can be done to make it worse, and nothing can be done to make it better.

      • Brett

        The relations most likely will get better. As China tiptoes further from their alliance with NK, SK will be the North’s only hope of surviving another century. I predict the next 50 years will see a change of NK politics and practices. They have no choice if they want to be relevant in the world and not die off completely. Nukes wont cut it soon.

        • chucky3176

          That won’t happen because the people who are really in power (not just the supreme leader) know they will lose their luxurious lifestyle and power, if something like that ever happened. Many of them also know they will face trials for crimes against humanity. It’s not just their life style that they’re protecting, they’re protecting their own lives and their families. No, the only way the NK regime will change is when there’s either an internal struggle or when North Korea collapses economically and militarily. The sooner we all recognize and accept this, the clearer it gets with what our foreign policy should be toward North Korea.

      • commander

        If the allegation of Ri appearing in a porn film is true, Kim Jong-un finds it hard to keep Ri as his wife and first lady of North Korea despite the alleged execution of others involved in the porn making as she will be looked down on by those close to power who know the truth, and be dogged by rumors whenever she makes public appearances.

        The execution will not be a cure all for any misconduct if it is confirmed as true.

      • ooojj

        that would make such an awesome korean drama ‘but my love is so great for you i kill an orchestra for you’

  • markus peg

    Anyone who sees and reads them will be killed immediately.
    They are endangering lives with this sort of action.

  • Tee Kei

    should stuff the dumbasses who thought of it on a balloon and send them over……………

  • commander

    In my speculation, the more plausible explanation for the first lady’s months of disappearance on public stage in a marked contrast to the earliest days of Kim Jong eun came to power is that the military top brass in North Korea may not view Ri Sol-ju’s behavior in good light that runs counter to a role that has been expected from a wife of the most powerful man in Pyongyang.

    The third power trainsition needed some fresh minor changes to boast its smooth proceeding, but I think the publicity the 20 something woman generated during a trainsitional period that riveted global attention was a bit too far, so that she could pushed back into behind the curtains under the tacit nod by a chubby leader Kim Jong eun.

  • MidniteOwl

    video please… or else it didn’t happen… but yeh… video please.

  • Clark__K

    What a mindless ploy.

    • alabamaBAM

      Hi, Clark. I think you’re cute.

  • http://www.sos-symphysiotomy.com/ redgirls

    so bad

  • alabamaBAM

    The balloons look like giant condoms, which is great, but if they were instead those giant inflatable dancing balloon men (like you see outside car dealerships)? Well, that would be better.

  • bultak23

    if you want to cause trouble send them a new north korean flag.

  • maplesyrup

    I saw the video capture of the alleged video but it looks like her. Might have been shopped but who knows.

    I don’t know who’d pay to see her naked but North Korean porn industry is undergoing serious lack of talent.

    Can’t North Korea do anything right?

  • Azure

    South Korean mainstream is getting more slutty, the “dignity” is not their strength point.

  • chucky3176

    South Korean media has deeply penetrated North Korean society.

    Watch this short sketch that were made by North Korean defectors, what’s going on inside North Korea, and the impressions of North Koreans who are secretly watching the South Korean medium.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=co8CrlpC32A

    This should only encourage more balloon send ups, because people in North Korea are wide open/open minded to South Korean information. Include MP3 music, news videos, movies in USB formats, articles in PDF formats, as well as food, blankets, and choco pies, etc.

    This kind of South Korean information offensive is what North Korean government is afraid of the most. They have tried numerously before to stop these campaigns by South Korean groups fighting for freedom in North Korea.

    • commander

      For many North Korean watchers, what is the most intriguing is that a decade of food shortage, deaths by starvation and increasing exposoure to a more prospering outside world with visual materials or rumors from North Korean workers in China has not led to any popular uprising against the North Korean regime.

      The question is: Can trickling-in items showing North Korea’s abject poverty help motivate hungry people in the North to rise up against the regime, which is mainly reliant upon China’s economic aid?

      Even if the answer is in thr affirmative, uprisings ciuld be put crueloy down by force by the North Korean militar, which is known to be relatively well fed to keep combat posture.

      Even if North Korea has too few forces to crack down rebellions, Chinese troops could be brounght in at thr request by North Korea to suppress rebels.

      • chucky3176

        Watch this show, forward to 18:00, and hear what the former North Korean soldiers who were stationed near the DMZ say. Just about all of them have listened to South Korean broadcasts, and have seen South Korean leaflets and South Korean balloon goodies.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AooFJI1hzDA

        Too many people are underestimating the effects of the balloons. A lot of North Koreans are waiting for the balloons from the South. This is why the North Korean regime is so sensitive about this.

        There really should be more balloons going up.

  • https://www.facebook.com/dinie.akhemu Gerhana

    whos hogging all the balloon? past along please.

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    The more I read this, the more I feel this should have been something out of The Onion. And that scares me.

  • UserID01

    And just how would this BENEFIT the two nations? It seems like a petty schoolyard bully jibe. “Oh yeah?! Well… well… your dad’s wife was in a porno! HAH!”

    Honestly, this reeks of immaturity.

    • chucky3176

      “And just how would this BENEFIT the two nations?”

      It’s not meant to benefit the two nations. The only way to deal with North Korea is to bring down their leadership through outside pressure. Their whole society and each individual lives are based on the worship of godlike figure of Kim Jong Eun and his wife – through fear and force. By showing the North Koreans who are deprived of outside information, that their leadership are humans and not gods as they are portrayed as, that they are complete frauds, you are sewing seeds of internal discontent by North Koreans.

  • blitzkrieg

    Oh no! Fatty Kim executed the wrong wife, too late!

  • lillDreamer56

    This is absolutely explosive, and those criticizing the defectors do not seem to understand the significance of whats being shown to the NK people. Not only are the rumors of the ‘machine-gun execution’ true, but NK FIRST LADY was in a porno film. Imagine his happening in your own country, people! Imagine what this does to what little credibility they have. No wonder Kim Jung Ill disapproved of his son’s relationships with this woman. These balloons need to continue, and the next step if the US/UN to communicate indirectly to the subordinates to Kim Jong Un

  • chucky3176

    Here’s a documentary film that explains this topic about the North Korean defectors using the balloons to get their message across to their loved ones in the north. It an excellent film that explains this topic and the debate, rather than giving out misunderstandings. A film by Journeyman TV,

    “Balloon For Pyongyang”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdzr_X39H1I&list=TLjxAD7X95t_6n49Uv4vXUjlSkT8YjTiM8

  • Howard Duck2

    We need to see the video or it didn’t happen.

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